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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Okay, I see how the BHO works now. It's not as bad as I though, since there's an actual slot with a plug that can be removed to install the BHO. I'd imagined it was more improvised and jammed in there. But I do agree that some kind of mechanism, other than adhesive, to make it stay in its slot would be helpful: View Quote You slide the BHO into the slot after you've removed the plug, and you push the lever so the BHO rides over the back of the slot and it clicks pretty firmly into place. It stays in pretty well, actually. On my rifle I've had no problems at all with the BHO being loose. |
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Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Sure, if there's enough demonstrated demand for the nickel boron carrier and other parts we'll definitely bring them to market as an option for our customers. One of our vendors does an excellent job with NiB and a lot of our more discriminating customers demand it on the feed trays of our belt fed rifles, so it's something that we can definitely do. Thanks. View Quote As an scr owner, could i ship my bcg to you guys to have it sent out to get NiB coated? Btw, my scr originally came with the 10lb trigger and your (Ares) customer service was really good/fast when installing the 5lb trigger. |
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Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
No, we haven't connected on the Gunstruction app yet, but it's a great idea! In the meantime and for the MRP fans in the bunch, here's a Lewis Machine (LMT) MRP upper fitted to an ARES SCR lower with a wooden stock, bipod and Leupold optic. http://i57.tinypic.com/9i9reo.jpg View Quote That's actually pretty awesome looking |
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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Okay, I see how the BHO works now. It's not as bad as I though, since there's an actual slot with a plug that can be removed to install the BHO. I'd imagined it was more improvised and jammed in there. But I do agree that some kind of mechanism, other than adhesive, to make it stay in its slot would be helpful: http://i61.tinypic.com/2vhzoeh.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/16tcuv.jpg View Quote It should already be installed on the rifle when you buy it. Raise the MSRP by $20 and have it pre-installed. |
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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Someone on another forum drew an interesting parallel to an earlier rifle that was also a "traditionalized" EBR: http://i60.tinypic.com/111o2vm.jpg Leader Dynamics T2/Australian Automatic Arms SAC: http://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/australian-automatic-arms-sac/ The standard rifle looked more like a cross between an AR-18 and a G36, same kind of stamped-metal construction as the AR-18, but this sporting variant shown above is basically an AR-18 which has undergone a process similar to that seen on the Saiga and the SCR. Is there a particular technical term for this process of turning a pistol-gripped rifle to a traditionally-stocked rifle, but one that results in pretty much the same number or rounds fired at the same velocity and rate? Here's the "eeeeeeeevil" version for contrast: http://i57.tinypic.com/2nta8sm.jpg View Quote First thought was some kind of crazy bastardized FAL |
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Left-handed and right-minded!
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ARES any more details on the iron sights you are working on ? How are they installed on the bbl ? Release date/price ?
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Nice dude, I love how low you can have the optics with this setup.
Beautiful rifle! |
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Originally Posted By Andromax:
Nice dude, I love how low you can have the optics with this setup. Beautiful rifle! View Quote Overall I like the idea that the scope is so close to the bore axis. Only downside was I was considering getting the Bushnell AR 1-4x scope to dip my toe into the adjustable low-power world, but the Amazon listing has a warning that it needs at least medium-rise rings since it has a tower projecting downward from the body. So I'm considering the Millet DMS instead. So all these years of people making low-mount scopes and the AR-15 shooters have to pu them up way high in cantilever mounts to get the right picture... and now that so much of the tactical market revolves around ARs we're stuck trying to figure out how to get irons and optics low enough on things like the SCR. |
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I have to admit I want one of these and I do not live in a ban state.
Would be nice for hunting. |
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JC....is that yours ? What handguard is that, nice look to it.
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Originally Posted By Andromax:
Nice dude, I love how low you can have the optics with this setup. Beautiful rifle! View Quote If thats to me, thanks. and although the scope is mounted on low rings, the cheek weld isn't quite what I would like it to be yet. If this stock was the Monte Carlo version I would probably get a proper cheek weld. I plan to put a pouch on the buttstock and build up some padding underneath it so I can get the proper cheek weld. |
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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Overall I like the idea that the scope is so close to the bore axis. Only downside was I was considering getting the Bushnell AR 1-4x scope to dip my toe into the adjustable low-power world, but the Amazon listing has a warning that it needs at least medium-rise rings since it has a tower projecting downward from the body. So I'm considering the Millet DMS instead. So all these years of people making low-mount scopes and the AR-15 shooters have to pu them up way high in cantilever mounts to get the right picture... and now that so much of the tactical market revolves around ARs we're stuck trying to figure out how to get irons and optics low enough on things like the SCR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Andromax:
Nice dude, I love how low you can have the optics with this setup. Beautiful rifle! Overall I like the idea that the scope is so close to the bore axis. Only downside was I was considering getting the Bushnell AR 1-4x scope to dip my toe into the adjustable low-power world, but the Amazon listing has a warning that it needs at least medium-rise rings since it has a tower projecting downward from the body. So I'm considering the Millet DMS instead. So all these years of people making low-mount scopes and the AR-15 shooters have to pu them up way high in cantilever mounts to get the right picture... and now that so much of the tactical market revolves around ARs we're stuck trying to figure out how to get irons and optics low enough on things like the SCR. for what it's worth I have the Bushnell ar optics 1-4 on my SCR and it sits on low rings. I did not get the model with the throw down lever on it as I didn't want or need the illuminated reticle. Perhaps the model with the Throwdown lever may have an issue with low rings but this one does not. I hope that helps. |
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Originally Posted By bmfgsxr:
Heres my scr.. <a href="http://s104.photobucket.com/user/bmfsvt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150218_151713_zpsncnzkubi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m179/bmfsvt/Mobile%20Uploads/20150218_151713_zpsncnzkubi.jpg</a> View Quote What rail is that on your SCR? How did the install go? |
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Those are some great looking rifles! We love to see pics of what folks are doing with the ARES SCR and right now BMFGSXR and JC's rifles have my attention!
Keep 'em coming and please share the details of your handguards, barrels, optics, receivers, etc! Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By mag162:
What rail is that on your SCR? How did the install go? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mag162:
Originally Posted By bmfgsxr:
Heres my scr.. <a href="http://s104.photobucket.com/user/bmfsvt/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150218_151713_zpsncnzkubi.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m179/bmfsvt/Mobile%20Uploads/20150218_151713_zpsncnzkubi.jpg</a> What rail is that on your SCR? How did the install go? http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=1266 Very lightweight, and small radius. It fits over the factory low pro gb no problem.. install was a breeze. I am VERY happy with this handguard. |
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Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Those are some great looking rifles! We love to see pics of what folks are doing with the ARES SCR and right now BMFGSXR and JC's rifles have my attention! Keep 'em coming and please share the details of your handguards, barrels, optics, receivers, etc! Thanks. View Quote Thanks. My rifle is the SCR 002. I installed the midwest industries M1 Lightweight free float MLok 15" handguard https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1266 It has the Bushnell AR optics 1-4x 24mm sitting on low rings http://www.bushnell.com/tactical/rifle-scopes/ar-optics/1-4x-24mm Raptor charging handle http://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-arms-raptor-ambidextrous-charging-handle-5-56mm Ares bolt catch A pair of no name flip up/offset irons As it sits, shooting xm193, on a bench with just a front rest i was shooting 1/2" groups at 50 yds. I plan to grab some match grade ammo and use a rear bag to see how capable she is. Thats pretty much it. I have an idea for the mag release and if you want to hear it let me know who to email. On another note, i spoke alot with DeLaine and she was very good with communication, and pleasant as well. |
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Originally Posted By roland65:
JC....is that yours ? What handguard is that, nice look to it. View Quote Yes, I currently have a DRD quick change upper on it. I have a few additional barrels with different setups that get swapped in. The leupold prismatic optic is a perfect match to the SCR. Quick and handy. I'm very happy with the SCR so far. No issues. |
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Originally Posted By bmfgsxr:
If thats to me, thanks. and although the scope is mounted on low rings, the cheek weld isn't quite what I would like it to be yet. If this stock was the Monte Carlo version I would probably get a proper cheek weld. I plan to put a pouch on the buttstock and build up some padding underneath it so I can get the proper cheek weld. View Quote Huh, do folks figure that to use any scope/rings, you have to either have the Monte Carlo or a cheekrest, or do some optics mount low enough that even the non-MC stock would give proper cheekweld? EDIT: also I was checking to see if the Remington 870 Youth stock would fit the SCR, but as I understand it only the 870/1100 stocks for the 12ga frame are compatible with the SCR? Since the Rem 20ga has a smaller/narrower frame, right? So if I want a shorter wooden stock on an SCR, I need to cut down a standard Remington stock? |
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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Huh, do folks figure that to use any scope/rings, you have to either have the Monte Carlo or a cheekrest, or do some optics mount low enough that even the non-MC stock would give proper cheekweld? EDIT: also I was checking to see if the Remington 870 Youth stock would fit the SCR, but as I understand it only the 870/1100 stocks for the 12ga frame are compatible with the SCR? Since the Rem 20ga has a smaller/narrower frame, right? So if I want a shorter wooden stock on an SCR, I need to cut down a standard Remington stock? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By bmfgsxr:
If thats to me, thanks. and although the scope is mounted on low rings, the cheek weld isn't quite what I would like it to be yet. If this stock was the Monte Carlo version I would probably get a proper cheek weld. I plan to put a pouch on the buttstock and build up some padding underneath it so I can get the proper cheek weld. Huh, do folks figure that to use any scope/rings, you have to either have the Monte Carlo or a cheekrest, or do some optics mount low enough that even the non-MC stock would give proper cheekweld? EDIT: also I was checking to see if the Remington 870 Youth stock would fit the SCR, but as I understand it only the 870/1100 stocks for the 12ga frame are compatible with the SCR? Since the Rem 20ga has a smaller/narrower frame, right? So if I want a shorter wooden stock on an SCR, I need to cut down a standard Remington stock? since my scope is mounted on low rings and the buttstock still is not high enough I imagine most rifles would need either the Monte Carlo stock or a cheek riser. Its possible with the standard butt stock and something like a micro red dot that gets mounted directly to the rail that you may be able to get a proper cheek weld. But with any type of optic that gets mounted on rings I don't think the standard stock will give you a proper cheek weld. Additionally, Ares does offer a third stock option which is called the short sporter stock. Obviously mine is this standard sporter stock, and of course they offer the monthly Carlo stock too. For someone who wants a shorter stock the short sporter is the way to go. |
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Originally Posted By -JC-:
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr281/JCUSA/ArfcomTradeFodder/20150305_165309_zpsl2gafky5.jpg View Quote Okay, that is sexy. |
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted By Rontalvos: You slide the BHO into the slot after you've removed the plug, and you push the lever so the BHO rides over the back of the slot and it clicks pretty firmly into place. It stays in pretty well, actually. On my rifle I've had no problems at all with the BHO being loose. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rontalvos: Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas: Okay, I see how the BHO works now. It's not as bad as I though, since there's an actual slot with a plug that can be removed to install the BHO. I'd imagined it was more improvised and jammed in there. But I do agree that some kind of mechanism, other than adhesive, to make it stay in its slot would be helpful: You slide the BHO into the slot after you've removed the plug, and you push the lever so the BHO rides over the back of the slot and it clicks pretty firmly into place. It stays in pretty well, actually. On my rifle I've had no problems at all with the BHO being loose. Mine definitely does not click into place. It falls right out (onto the ground) when I change uppers at the range. |
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Some pretty slick looking guns
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Question: Are the FCG a standard AR hammer with custom trigger or ?
And damnit, this thread is going to turn my next AR build (I don't have one at the moment) into a SCR build. Probably going to do 14.5" lightweight when I get working again. |
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
No, it's proprietary View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Question: Are the FCG a standard AR hammer with custom trigger or ? No, it's proprietary Thanks. I was looking at the pin locations and going Figured as much. |
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
No, it's proprietary View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Question: Are the FCG a standard AR hammer with custom trigger or ? No, it's proprietary One of the other comments I'd seen in some reviews was that the hammer is thinner on the SCR than on a standard AR lower (presumably due to space limitations when they reworked the frame?). Is there any concern that this impacts reliability/durability, or is it a non-issue? I've been perusing SCR threads on various forums, and I think this is the best one so far this year, in terms of that we're getting popular questions answered pretty well, and getting more examples of builds posted (some of that because we're compiling publicly-posted build pics off other forums). |
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Coldblue....what cheek pad is that ?
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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
One of the other comments I'd seen in some reviews was that the hammer is thinner on the SCR than on a standard AR lower (presumably due to space limitations when they reworked the frame?). Is there any concern that this impacts reliability/durability, or is it a non-issue? I've been perusing SCR threads on various forums, and I think this is the best one so far this year, in terms of that we're getting popular questions answered pretty well, and getting more examples of builds posted (some of that because we're compiling publicly-posted build pics off other forums). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Question: Are the FCG a standard AR hammer with custom trigger or ? No, it's proprietary One of the other comments I'd seen in some reviews was that the hammer is thinner on the SCR than on a standard AR lower (presumably due to space limitations when they reworked the frame?). Is there any concern that this impacts reliability/durability, or is it a non-issue? I've been perusing SCR threads on various forums, and I think this is the best one so far this year, in terms of that we're getting popular questions answered pretty well, and getting more examples of builds posted (some of that because we're compiling publicly-posted build pics off other forums). The fire control group is proprietary and the hammer is thinner but is a non-issue. We have pumped thousands of Lake City M193 & M855 rounds down range with no issues at all & the lock time is slightly faster than a standard AR hammer due to the reduced mass. Agree with your thread comments; there's some great pics and information exchange. Thank you all for your interest in this system. |
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Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
The fire control group is proprietary and the hammer is thinner but is a non-issue. We have pumped thousands of Lake City M193 & M855 rounds down range with no issues at all & the lock time is slightly faster than a standard AR hammer due to the reduced mass. Agree with your thread comments; there's some great pics and information exchange. Thank you all for your interest in this system. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Question: Are the FCG a standard AR hammer with custom trigger or ? No, it's proprietary One of the other comments I'd seen in some reviews was that the hammer is thinner on the SCR than on a standard AR lower (presumably due to space limitations when they reworked the frame?). Is there any concern that this impacts reliability/durability, or is it a non-issue? I've been perusing SCR threads on various forums, and I think this is the best one so far this year, in terms of that we're getting popular questions answered pretty well, and getting more examples of builds posted (some of that because we're compiling publicly-posted build pics off other forums). The fire control group is proprietary and the hammer is thinner but is a non-issue. We have pumped thousands of Lake City M193 & M855 rounds down range with no issues at all & the lock time is slightly faster than a standard AR hammer due to the reduced mass. Agree with your thread comments; there's some great pics and information exchange. Thank you all for your interest in this system. Mostly was curious since I think one of these as a HBAR target gun with 2.5# trigger would be fantastic. |
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Bought it from Ares Defense.
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Originally Posted By roland65:
Coldblue....what cheek pad is that ? View Quote The brand on that specific cheek pad is "Fox Tactical" and it has a pouch on one side that can hold a 20-round mag, etc. We only had a few of them and we haven't been able to locate them on the Fox Tactical website to order any more. But, if you google "butt stock pouch" and hit the image button for results, you'll see that there are plenty of them out there with varying degrees of utility and quality. They are a great addition to the ARES SCR and provide a lot of functionality in that you can both store stuff inside them and also pad them up underneath to get a perfect, non-slip cheek weld for your favorite optic/mount combo. |
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Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
Here is my Polytech Hunter... http://i62.tinypic.com/2hyxoqv.jpg Got this in a trade recently, going to add a TechSight and optic mount...possibly a muzzle device. Works with standard 30-round AK mags, but I also have a handful of 5-round mags for use during hunting season. View Quote That thing is beautiful. It's perfect as-is. Sell it to me instead of modifying it! |
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Originally Posted By Rontalvos:
That thing is beautiful. It's perfect as-is. Sell it to me instead of modifying it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rontalvos:
Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
Here is my Polytech Hunter... http://i62.tinypic.com/2hyxoqv.jpg Got this in a trade recently, going to add a TechSight and optic mount...possibly a muzzle device. Works with standard 30-round AK mags, but I also have a handful of 5-round mags for use during hunting season. That thing is beautiful. It's perfect as-is. Sell it to me instead of modifying it! The rear sight is horrible, I mean really bad, so the TechSight upgrade is necessary. The only other mod will likely be the side optic mount commonly found on many AKs today, then I can put a Primary Arms 1-6x 7.62 ACSS scope on it. |
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Left-handed and right-minded!
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So far in the thread we've had AR-15s with a traditional stock, and an AR-18 and an AK. Now we just need to find someone making a V-58 with a traditional stock. That'd be awesome.
I'll probably just stick with 5.56mm for simplicity and because I have a good amount stocked up, but the big-bore options (.458, .50) are pretty cool. I actually almost bought an old Ruger Deerfield .44 Mag semi-auto rifle as my DC-legal household gat, but dropped all other ideas when the SCR showed up. While maybe a used Deerfield would be a little cheaper, the versatility of the SCR is what sold me. If work stuff hadn't changed, I might've been the first guy to register one in Washington DC (in DC all firearms have to be individually registered with Metro PD) since I was on the waitlist, but I couldn't buy one because leaving the country, but I understand at least two people (at least one an AR15.com member) have legal SCRs in our nation's capital currently. |
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We've been getting steady requests for gas piston compatibility with the ARES SCR, so we're bringing a kit to market that will fall within our patented GXR Gas Piston Retrofit Kit product line and that will readily install in about 10 minutes with no gunsmithing required. The GXR kit is carbine length and is compatible with many handguards including Daniel Defense Gas Piston Omega Rail, Midwest Industries Drop In carbine handguard, Magpul MOE, Diamondhead rail systems, Bravo Company Keymod to name a few.
These will be going on sale within the next 2 weeks. In the meantime, here's a sneak peek from part of an endurance test of the ARES SCR with an ARES Defense GXR gas piston retrofit kit installed for the piston fans in the crowd. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/XjCrD6mjYac |
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PLEASE....any info on the iron sights ? How is the front one mounted ?
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Originally Posted By roland65:
PLEASE....any info on the iron sights ? How is the front one mounted ? View Quote Yes, they should begin shipping by Tuesday or Wednesday of this coming week and include a sling swivel that's part of the front sight housing. We'll keep you posted and try to get some pictures up tomorrow that will show mounting details. Thanks. |
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Thanks Hanz, how'd you fix it?
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Originally Posted By Hanz:
You're welcome. I think you have to be a team member to embed. Then I keep clicking different things and editing the post until it works View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Thanks Hanz, how'd you fix it? Got it, Thanks again! |
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Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Got it, Thanks again! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Originally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Thanks Hanz, how'd you fix it? Got it, Thanks again! What part of FL are you folks from? |
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