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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:46:37 AM EDT
Zelensky Reveals U.S. and Ukraine ‘Working’ on Scheme for 10 Years of Military Aid

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed that the United States and Ukrainian governments are “working on a bilateral security agreement” that would result in sending additional monetary aid to Ukraine over the next ten years.

In a statement issued on Sunday, Zelensky noted he had spoken to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) thanking “him and all the congressmen for their support” of Ukraine and for voting to send a $61 billion aid package out of a $95 billion foreign aid package.

Zelensky added that during his conversation with Jeffries, he had “emphasized the need for Patriot systems.”

This is not the first time Zelensky has begged for more American-made Patriot missile systems to be sent to Ukraine.

Currently, Ukraine has three Patriot systems, one from the U.S. and two reportedly from Germany, according to the Washington Post.

On Friday, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin revealed that the U.S. would be sending Ukraine more Patriot systems as part of an additional $6 billion foreign aid package.

“Also, our teams, Ukraine and the United States, are currently working on a bilateral security agreement, and we are already working on a specific text. Our goal is to make this agreement the strongest of all. We are discussing the specific foundations of our security and cooperation,” Zelensky said. “We are also working on fixing specific levels of support for this year and for the next ten years, including armed support, financial, political, and joint arms production. The agreement should be truly exemplary and reflect the strength of American leadership. I am grateful to both our team and the team of the American side for the progress in drafting the agreement.”

On top of the $61 billion in foreign aid recently approved by the United States, United Kingdom Prime Minister Rishi Sunak vowed to send an additional £500 million in foreign aid to Ukraine.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:52:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Hopefully just a piece of wartime propaganda.

Thinking Russia will lose hope knowing their enemy has employed the money cheat code.  But then may  backfire as Russia knows when they went broke in the cold war.  The US is funding every god damn war right now…even opposing sides.  How sustainable us that?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:53:22 AM EDT
[#2]
So....pretty much everybody thinks Joe's gonna lose.

Gotta get that deal done now.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:55:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Hopefully just a piece of wartime propaganda.

Thinking Russia will lose hope knowing their enemy has employed the money cheat code.  But then may  backfire as Russia knows when they went broke in the cold war.  The US is funding every god damn war right now even opposing sides.  How sustainable us that?
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Nobody knows, the US is in a unique position when it comes to money printing.

It's all paid for. Inflation is just the tax required to balance the system
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:56:36 AM EDT
[#4]
No shit.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:59:29 AM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:02:12 AM EDT
[#6]
Zelensky will be sure to pay us back

Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:04:16 AM EDT
[#7]
lol...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:04:28 AM EDT
[#8]
In the end some Ukrainians will be filthy rich , many poor Ukrainians will be dead , and the rest will loathe the US for the next 100 years .

If you’re going to help someone in a war you don’t piecemeal juuuuuust enough equipment to achieve a stalemate and endless death and suffering .

You give them enough to win .
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:06:15 AM EDT
[#9]
Of course we are.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:10:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Hopefully just a piece of wartime propaganda.
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:11:11 AM EDT
[#11]
1 trillion over 10 years is what they are discussing
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:15:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:17:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dsteelman:
In the end some Ukrainians will be filthy rich , many poor Ukrainians will be dead , and the rest will loathe the US for the next 100 years .

If you’re going to help someone in a war you don’t piecemeal juuuuuust enough equipment to achieve a stalemate and endless death and suffering .

You give them enough to win .
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And the Ukraine will still be smaller than it was in 2007.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:18:24 AM EDT
[#14]
In before "Good "
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:18:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dsteelman:
In the end some Ukrainians will be filthy rich , many poor Ukrainians will be dead , and the rest will loathe the US for the next 100 years .

If you’re going to help someone in a war you don’t piecemeal juuuuuust enough equipment to achieve a stalemate and endless death and suffering .

You give them enough to win .
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:18:40 AM EDT
[#16]
wait till we pay for rebuilding the country, going to be a first world country, all on our dime.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:19:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:28:52 AM EDT
[#18]
Ukraine is nothing but a money grab for the politicians.  Those fat cats are richer by every passing bill.  But alas, at least it will kill one orc...right Uke bros...Stand United in tearing this America DOWN!!!  Keep ushering the new NAZI regime.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:31:12 AM EDT
[#19]
The American taxpayers are becoming slavas to Ukrainia
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:31:37 AM EDT
[#20]
Excellent
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:31:37 AM EDT
[#21]
The Marshall Plan began in 1947 and funding for it ended in 1951.

The USA has become a permanent welfare agency for certain parts of the world.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:35:37 AM EDT
[#22]
He’ll get whatever he wants and like it! Fuck the US taxpayers!
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:37:06 AM EDT
[#23]
I guess he thinks there is an endless supply of willing Ukrainians.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:38:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tommyg52:
wait till we pay for rebuilding the country, going to be a first world country, all on our dime.
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It will be as successful as the Clinton effort to rebuild Haiti.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:40:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Techsan02:
He’ll get whatever he wants and like it! Fuck the US taxpayers!
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Somebody has to pay the wages and retirement for all of those Ukrainian bureaucrats.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:44:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kihn:



Somebody has to pay the wages and retirement for all of those Ukrainian bureaucrats.
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
He’ll get whatever he wants and like it! Fuck the US taxpayers!



Somebody has to pay the wages and retirement for all of those Ukrainian bureaucrats.



It is pretty clear the Uke / Biden relationship includes dirt on the Bidens, as well as money laundering / bribes. Carrot AND stick relationship.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:45:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:46:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dsteelman:
In the end some Ukrainians will be filthy rich , many poor Ukrainians will be dead , and the rest will loathe the US for the next 100 years .

If you’re going to help someone in a war you don’t piecemeal juuuuuust enough equipment to achieve a stalemate and endless death and suffering .

You give them enough to win .
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They need bodies to win, and by win I mean hold what they currently have.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:46:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Hopefully just a piece of wartime propaganda.

Thinking Russia will lose hope knowing their enemy has employed the money cheat code.  But then may  backfire as Russia knows when they went broke in the cold war.  The US is funding every god damn war right now even opposing sides.  How sustainable us that?
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It's not as bad as the enemy funding the other side

Iran has a leg up, using billions in US funding.  
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:48:43 AM EDT
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It will never end as long as some part of Ukraine survives. I guess that’s fine with some of the “conservatives” here as long as it kills one more orc.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:53:30 AM EDT
[#31]
But I was told it wasn’t a forever war……
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:58:47 AM EDT
[#32]
Capital gains tax increases will be the highest in US history. Not to mention our taxes will go way up again.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:01:57 AM EDT
[#33]
Why is he talking to Jefferies?
Traitor Johnson has not been given to boot yet.
Will we get a border deal in exchange for a 10 year billions deal?
Oh hell naw.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:02:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Well, at least Ukraine has this going for it.



Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:03:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:14:32 AM EDT
[#36]
Can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.  Buncha Putin Puffers here.

Look, do you people want to see T-72s rolling down the Champs-Elysses?  Russian being spoken from Lisbon to Helsinki?  Russian agents confiscating Form 4473s from hardware stores in rural Colorado?

We must give Zelenskyy a trillion no-strings-attached dollars, or the Vatniks will win.  In fact, make it two trillion; deficits are irrelevant anyway and the national debt will be paid for by our good friends the Saudis.  Besides, we can cut Social Security to pay for it if we need to.

Freedom isn't free, and if we don't stand up to the Russkies now then our society will collapse tomorrow.  Remember, if it kills one orc then it's all worth it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:20:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
Can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.  Buncha Putin Puffers here.

Look, do you people want to see T-72s rolling down the Champs-Elysses?  Russian being spoken from Lisbon to Helsinki?  Russian agents confiscating Form 4473s from hardware stores in rural Colorado?

We must give Zelenskyy a trillion no-strings-attached dollars, or the Vatniks will win.  In fact, make it two trillion; deficits are irrelevant anyway and the national debt will be paid for by our good friends the Saudis.  Besides, we can cut Social Security to pay for it if we need to.

Freedom isn't free, and if we don't stand up to the Russkies now then our society will collapse tomorrow.  Remember, if it kills one orc then it's all worth it.
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Are you OK?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:21:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By phatmax:



It is pretty clear the Uke / Biden relationship includes dirt on the Bidens, as well as money laundering / bribes. Carrot AND stick relationship.
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Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
He’ll get whatever he wants and like it! Fuck the US taxpayers!



Somebody has to pay the wages and retirement for all of those Ukrainian bureaucrats.



It is pretty clear the Uke / Biden relationship includes dirt on the Bidens, as well as money laundering / bribes. Carrot AND stick relationship.

All conspiracy theories with you guys. Why don’t you like liberty and freedom for one of our life long allies? Why don’t you like dead orkz? I guess you’d rather fight the orkz in the middle of your town, huh?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:22:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
Can't believe what I'm reading in this thread.  Buncha Putin Puffers here.

Look, do you people want to see T-72s rolling down the Champs-Elysses?  Russian being spoken from Lisbon to Helsinki?  Russian agents confiscating Form 4473s from hardware stores in rural Colorado?

We must give Zelenskyy a trillion no-strings-attached dollars, or the Vatniks will win.  In fact, make it two trillion; deficits are irrelevant anyway and the national debt will be paid for by our good friends the Saudis.  Besides, we can cut Social Security to pay for it if we need to.

Freedom isn't free, and if we don't stand up to the Russkies now then our society will collapse tomorrow.  Remember, if it kills one orc then it's all worth it.
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Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:23:53 AM EDT
[#40]
Boomers did this.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:25:20 AM EDT
[#41]
The New and Improved Forever War!  Now without American Blood!
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:26:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Naporter:
The New and Improved Forever War!  Now without American Blood!
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Until it is time for American Blood!

Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:26:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GrinningDag:
Boomers did this.
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Cold War propaganda lives in their psyche
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:27:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEb:
Hopefully just a piece of wartime propaganda.

Thinking Russia will lose hope knowing their enemy has employed the money cheat code.  But then may  backfire as Russia knows when they went broke in the cold war.  The US is funding every god damn war right now…even opposing sides.  How sustainable us that?
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It's not sustainable for sure.  We are broke, but we can kick the can down the road a long ways yet.  Not sure Russia can.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:29:00 AM EDT
[#45]
If it kills just even one Russian, then isn't this all worth it?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:31:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SuperSixOne:
Cold War propaganda lives in their psyche
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@supersixone
Kind of like how the Left used Greatest Gen feelings towards Nazis. When Commies began getting rooted out in the 1950s and 1960s, the Leftists tagged anyone coming after them as "Nazis" to conflate anti-communists with Nazis hunting Jews. It worked like a charm to manipulate Americans into believing they would become just like the people they fought in WW2, if they tried to stomp out Communist influence.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:31:31 AM EDT
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I hope everyone remembers how much hay the democrats made about Iraq and the 1.5 trillion spent there...like they were somehow opposed to it.

Well, here we are again. And they're leading the charge.

The uniparty does as it wishes.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:32:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth:
If it kills just even one Russian, then isn't this all worth it?
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Be worth it if we were killing Putin and people like him.  As it stands the ones dying on both sides are just young men they would much rather be chasing pussy and getting drunk then dying for some old man in a bunker somewhere.

Old men talking and young men dying...
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:44:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By eolian:
Why is he talking to Jefferies?
Traitor Johnson has not been given to boot yet.
Will we get a border deal in exchange for a 10 year billions deal?
Oh hell naw.
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Working a deal so he can't be shitcanned in a vote to end his majority leader position. The entire assembly votes on it.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:47:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Techsan02:

All conspiracy theories with you guys. Why don’t you like liberty and freedom for one of our life long allies? Why don’t you like dead orkz? I guess you’d rather fight the orkz in the middle of your town, huh?
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Originally Posted By Techsan02:
Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By Techsan02:
He’ll get whatever he wants and like it! Fuck the US taxpayers!



Somebody has to pay the wages and retirement for all of those Ukrainian bureaucrats.



It is pretty clear the Uke / Biden relationship includes dirt on the Bidens, as well as money laundering / bribes. Carrot AND stick relationship.

All conspiracy theories with you guys. Why don’t you like liberty and freedom for one of our life long allies? Why don’t you like dead orkz? I guess you’d rather fight the orkz in the middle of your town, huh?


This is pretty snarky. Tier one troll.
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