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Japanese glass?
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It's the Stargate Reticle! Interested to see how this stacks up to other 1-8x options in use.
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[#3]
Is it manufactured by LOW?
Can you post pictures of the reticle at 1x and at 8x? |
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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In for answers…
Who makes it? Weight? Daylight bright? Off settings between illumination settings? |
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Originally Posted By VeritatisUnus: In for answers Who makes it? Weight? Daylight bright? Off settings between illumination settings? View Quote And more specs from the manual. Looks like the big selling point is the reticle, if they really wanted to impress us, they would make a dual focal plane in 1-8 at this price. Hope it turn out to be a solid optic, there is a lot of competition here already. SPECIFICATIONS FAILURE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS MANUAL PRIOR TO USE MAY RESULT IN INJURY OR DAMAGE Model 1-8ICO-COR Magnification 1-8x Objective Diameter 24mm Eye Relief 100mm (3.94 in) Field of View (Degrees) 23 - 2.9 (1X - 8X) Field of View (m/100m) 41m - 5m Field of View (feet/100yds) 122ft - 15ft Tube Size 30mm Adjustment Graduation 1/10th MIL Max Elevation Adjustment 29MIL Max Windage Adjustment 29MIL Dioptric Fast Adjust 2 Diopters Parallax Setting Fixed @ 150yds Turret Style Low-Capped Focal Plane First Focal Plane (FFP) Reticle Glass-Etched ICO - MIL Illumination 11 Levels (Red or Green available) Length 280mm (11.0 in) Weight 550g (19.4oz) |
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The optic is asian manufactured. We sent LOW an e-mail a year ago when these projects started and they sent us a "message received" response, but never replied to the inquiry.
We were having trouble finding anything FFP with a highly functional reticle in the entire firearms optical industry to sell. The economy is not doing well, consumers don't have a lot of money to spend. The big name brand optics are vicinity of $2000-$2500 and I really don't understand why they have to cost this kind of money. I think a lot of that is over-blown, and I don't think consumers should have to spend $2500 to get a decent carbine LPVO. The illumination has one off position, there are not off positions between positions. Position 11 is visible outside in daylight, but I'm not sure this meets daytime bright for people wanting to operate the optic like a reflex sight. The warranty is 2 years electronics and lifetime mechanical, here is the verbiage from the manual: " OPTIC PRODUCT LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY Griffin Armament will repair or replace free of charge any optical product we manufacture for 2 years (electronics) and lifetime for mechanical. This warranty is unlimited in duration and covers at Griffin Armament’s sole discretion, service, repair, and/or replacement of damaged products caused by normal use. Any repair not covered by the warranty will be billed at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for a comparable optical product LIMITATIONS: Griffin Armament’s warranty does not cover loss, normal wear, damage to our product or the host weapon system resulting in whole or in part from abusive or negligent use, unauthorized modifications, or neglect. Finish wear is cosmetic and is not covered by this warranty. Any repairs to the unit made necessary by the above mentioned factors may be invoiced to the owner at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for the most comparable product. In all cases refer to the product manual for product limitations prior to using a Griffin Armament product. Warranty is subject to change without notice. " This means you have a 17 year industry company behind the product, so not only are you getting a quality product at a great price, but you are also getting a warranty from a company that is long established. That is a significant value in itself. There will be a mount bundle available as an introductory offer, and it will be MSRP for the optic, including a free Wisconsin manufactured, Griffin patent cantilever modular scope mount in 1.425" AR sight height. |
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By "Asian manufactured" does that mean the Philippines?
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have gun will travel
Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV. We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns. Lifetime NRA member SADLY now GOA and ASA member!!!!! |
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Optical bundles and rifles 15% off. Everything else including suppressors 30% off for Black Friday. We sold through about 40% of the optics in stock between the launch and this morning.
Griffin Armament Black Friday Deal |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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[#10]
Originally Posted By Green0: The optic is asian manufactured. We sent LOW an e-mail a year ago when these projects started and they sent us a "message received" response, but never replied to the inquiry. We were having trouble finding anything FFP with a highly functional reticle in the entire firearms optical industry to sell. The economy is not doing well, consumers don't have a lot of money to spend. The big name brand optics are vicinity of $2000-$2500 and I really don't understand why they have to cost this kind of money. I think a lot of that is over-blown, and I don't think consumers should have to spend $2500 to get a decent carbine LPVO. The illumination has one off position, there are not off positions between positions. Position 11 is visible outside in daylight, but I'm not sure this meets daytime bright for people wanting to operate the optic like a reflex sight. The warranty is 2 years electronics and lifetime mechanical, here is the verbiage from the manual: " OPTIC PRODUCT LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY Griffin Armament will repair or replace free of charge any optical product we manufacture for 2 years (electronics) and lifetime for mechanical. This warranty is unlimited in duration and covers at Griffin Armament’s sole discretion, service, repair, and/or replacement of damaged products caused by normal use. Any repair not covered by the warranty will be billed at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for a comparable optical product LIMITATIONS: Griffin Armament’s warranty does not cover loss, normal wear, damage to our product or the host weapon system resulting in whole or in part from abusive or negligent use, unauthorized modifications, or neglect. Finish wear is cosmetic and is not covered by this warranty. Any repairs to the unit made necessary by the above mentioned factors may be invoiced to the owner at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for the most comparable product. In all cases refer to the product manual for product limitations prior to using a Griffin Armament product. Warranty is subject to change without notice. " This means you have a 17 year industry company behind the product, so not only are you getting a quality product at a great price, but you are also getting a warranty from a company that is long established. That is a significant value in itself. There will be a mount bundle available as an introductory offer, and it will be MSRP for the optic, including a free Wisconsin manufactured, Griffin patent cantilever modular scope mount in 1.425" AR sight height. View Quote Ok, so it’s built somewhere near or on the largest continent in the world. That really narrows it down. |
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[#11]
Send it to SuperSetCa!!!
Love those guys I also love all the Griffin stuff I have |
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[#12]
I bet it’s as good as the Geissele optic.
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
The Emu War could have been won if the Australians used red dots on their handguns. |
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No product is right for everyone. I think the lpvo will need reviews because people will probably want to see it in use and hear third party opinions before they buy. I believe Barrel and Hatchet has one.
A few hundred of the dot sights sold, and this really nice video of unboxing popped up from a channel that bought one. NEW! Griffin Armament MRDS unboxing. #civilian #train #asmr #optic #unboxing #2023 #acro |
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Originally Posted By Green0: No product is right for everyone. I think the lpvo will need reviews because people will probably want to see it in use and hear third party opinions before they buy. I believe Barrel and Hatchet has one. A few hundred of the dot sights sold, and this really nice video of unboxing popped up from a channel that bought one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3vAI0sdWw View Quote So where is this made? |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
The Emu War could have been won if the Australians used red dots on their handguns. |
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy: So where is this made? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 45-Seventy: Originally Posted By Green0: No product is right for everyone. I think the lpvo will need reviews because people will probably want to see it in use and hear third party opinions before they buy. I believe Barrel and Hatchet has one. A few hundred of the dot sights sold, and this really nice video of unboxing popped up from a channel that bought one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3vAI0sdWw So where is this made? I'm guessing at that price it is China made, and maybe at or near the same plant the PA SLX's are made. Those turrets look really familiar. Unfortunately the market seems to be saturated with options like this, but that being said I hope you guys sell a million of these. Hard pass for me though as I don't like those chevron reticles. |
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This is why I simply can not get behind a product where/ when they lack the intestinal fortitude and integrity just to simply answer a basic question. Tells me they're not willing to stand behind their product(s).
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Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast: This is why I simply can not get behind a product where/ when they lack the intestinal fortitude and integrity just to simply answer a basic question. Tells me they're not willing to stand behind their product(s). View Quote That's not true. We sell a product to solve problems for people. If people come by who's only interest is throwing shit at the product, then we have nothing to talk about. The people who are in the right demographic for the optics bought the optics and are going to be well served by the optics, and if their products experience warranty issues, the company warranty will be there for the people. There is no record of customers who couldn't get warranty support from our company. To cast aspersions that we don't stand behind products is fantasy, not supported by any facts. I wish we lived in a world where every American could afford a $2600 optic, but we don't. On the day we shot the reticle video, through a clumsy camera attachment I shot ~25 rounds back to 500m with one miss on targets smaller than an E type silhouette with a 16” mk2 with m855 ammo, including hits to 300m with the rifle flopped over at 90 degrees. Ild like to see someone do that with anything else with an included $200 mount in the price bracket of this optic. |
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It just looks like another Chinese swampfox/PA/vortex/arken optic for the lower-budget demographic - including a slightly unique reticle to set it apart and avoid patent infringement.
Yeah it would be nice to not have to pay $2600 for a top of the line optic, but that's not what you're offering either... There are plenty of options at your price point for non-top-of-the-line optics. And many are lighter weight with a known track record. Best of luck to griffin, and geissele and all the other industry companies that try to diversify their tactical portfolio by slapping their logo and reticle on a generic "asian" scope. |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: It just looks like another Chinese swampfox/PA/vortex/arken optic for the lower-budget demographic - including a slightly unique reticle to set it apart and avoid patent infringement. Yeah it would be nice to not have to pay $2600 for a top of the line optic, but that's not what you're offering either... There are plenty of options at your price point for non-top-of-the-line optics. And many are lighter weight with a known track record. Best of luck to griffin, and geissele and all the other industry companies that try to diversify their tactical portfolio by slapping their logo and reticle on a generic "asian" scope. View Quote That’s kind of where I’m at with it. Both of those companies are generally held in high regard so it’s disappointing to see bargain basement optics. I think they would have been better off to just forgo the effort. |
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Point shooting will give you monkeypox. - John_Wayne777
The Emu War could have been won if the Australians used red dots on their handguns. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: The optic is asian manufactured. We sent LOW an e-mail a year ago when these projects started and they sent us a "message received" response, but never replied to the inquiry. We were having trouble finding anything FFP with a highly functional reticle in the entire firearms optical industry to sell. The economy is not doing well, consumers don't have a lot of money to spend. The big name brand optics are vicinity of $2000-$2500 and I really don't understand why they have to cost this kind of money. I think a lot of that is over-blown, and I don't think consumers should have to spend $2500 to get a decent carbine LPVO. The illumination has one off position, there are not off positions between positions. Position 11 is visible outside in daylight, but I'm not sure this meets daytime bright for people wanting to operate the optic like a reflex sight. The warranty is 2 years electronics and lifetime mechanical, here is the verbiage from the manual: " OPTIC PRODUCT LIFETIME LIMITED WARRANTY Griffin Armament will repair or replace free of charge any optical product we manufacture for 2 years (electronics) and lifetime for mechanical. This warranty is unlimited in duration and covers at Griffin Armament’s sole discretion, service, repair, and/or replacement of damaged products caused by normal use. Any repair not covered by the warranty will be billed at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for a comparable optical product LIMITATIONS: Griffin Armament’s warranty does not cover loss, normal wear, damage to our product or the host weapon system resulting in whole or in part from abusive or negligent use, unauthorized modifications, or neglect. Finish wear is cosmetic and is not covered by this warranty. Any repairs to the unit made necessary by the above mentioned factors may be invoiced to the owner at a maximum of 30% of current MSRP for the most comparable product. In all cases refer to the product manual for product limitations prior to using a Griffin Armament product. Warranty is subject to change without notice. " This means you have a 17 year industry company behind the product, so not only are you getting a quality product at a great price, but you are also getting a warranty from a company that is long established. That is a significant value in itself. There will be a mount bundle available as an introductory offer, and it will be MSRP for the optic, including a free Wisconsin manufactured, Griffin patent cantilever modular scope mount in 1.425" AR sight height. View Quote I like that you are making the mount here in the US. Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer a clean, mil hashed reticle, with half mil increments, and a daylight visible dot in the middle. Those are available in the same price range as this offering. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: That's not true. We sell a product to solve problems for people. If people come by who's only interest is throwing shit at the product, then we have nothing to talk about. The people who are in the right demographic for the optics bought the optics and are going to be well served by the optics, and if their products experience warranty issues, the company warranty will be there for the people. There is no record of customers who couldn't get warranty support from our company. To cast aspersions that we don't stand behind products is fantasy, not supported by any facts. I wish we lived in a world where every American could afford a $2600 optic, but we don't. On the day we shot the reticle video, through a clumsy camera attachment I shot ~25 rounds back to 500m with one miss on targets smaller than an E type silhouette with a 16” mk2 with m855 ammo, including hits to 300m with the rifle flopped over at 90 degrees. Ild like to see someone do that with anything else with an included $200 mount in the price bracket of this optic. View Quote So Just Tell us Where is it made ? Integrity matters. |
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BDC and Chevron? Great!
Refusing to answer repeated questions on where it's made? Bad. There's a place for affordably priced optics, but funding our enemies is not one of them. Purposefully dodging repeated requests for this information makes things even worse. |
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Originally Posted By swatbwana: So Just Tell us Where is it made ? Integrity matters. View Quote LOL. Attached File |
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So it's made where again?
I was kinda jazzed up about a recent Griffin optic until a brief search found the identical, and I mean identical optic in a slew of brands with alphabet soup names for half (or less) the price. Might be a good optic, might not, but dodging the direct questions to avoid showing a chicom rebrand is not confidence inspiring. Then again, it's worked well for SIG, so I don't blame anyone for following suit. |
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When you go to your website, and on the product page, there is a banner that “says American made with pride” but then you said it’s made in Asia. May you please disclose which country in Asia this is manufactured or whether it’s made in America? I don’t understand why the confusion.
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Obviously nobody noticed that conflict.
Nearly everything we make is manufactured at our facility but that is not the case for optics- the banner appears to just be populated to all areas of the website (it is probably part of the main page template). Thanks for bringing that to my attention. The marketing team (including people who make webpages, are at SHOT Show this week, so resolving that on the webpage will happen when they return to their desks/workstations. |
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View Quote It's so funny because they're still just refusing to say it. We obviously all know, and now it's become such a focus. This is really turning me off to Griffin Armament. |
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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Originally Posted By zentradi: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14200/signal-2024-01-21-151912_002_jpeg-3106127.JPG Griffin, have you figured out where in Asia your factory is? View Quote We all know where, but they won't say it out loud, so now it's all I'll ever think of when I see Griffin Armament. |
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60 day rule
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