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We're talking about the group size with the IMI 77 grain, not the shifting barrel from flexing. All barrels flex when yanked/pushed, this is true for the AR-15 as well as any other barrel out there. Taking set, after flexing, is the issue with the MCX Spear-LT/Spear line and I'm willing to bet that has more to do with the handguard screws than the barrel clamp design.
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak:Originally Posted By medieval_flail:Originally Posted By Zerlak:Originally Posted By Magsz18:
Great video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6efiG_1b7A
Long story short, Spear LT accuracy sucks. I'm still not mad about it as I've never had any issue hitting anything i've aimed at with my 11.5 inch gun. It's been utterly reliable, accurate enough and really pleasant to shoot.
Your 11.5" is a chrome lined phosphate barrel and their 16" will be a nitride. I'm curious if these manufacturing differences would potentially impact the accuracy.
Also possible the Spear-LT just doesn't care for the IMI 77 grain.
Uh I think it has something to do with the poorly designed barrel clamp which allowed the barrel to flex as seen in the video and verified by many others independently. This kills the rifle for me, it is simply too expensive to have both a flexible rail AND barrel. Maybe the CSAW clamp is different? We won't know till they actually get in the hands of someone other than CAG and the SAS.
We're talking about the group size with the IMI 77 grain, not the shifting barrel from flexing. All barrels flex when yanked/pushed, this is true for the AR-15 as well as any other barrel out there. Taking set, after flexing, is the issue with the MCX Spear-LT/Spear line and I'm willing to bet that has more to do with the handguard screws than the barrel clamp design.
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SIG Spear LT (Gen 3 MCX) to 500yds: Practical Accuracy
Different rifle from the first they used for the deflection test, but my guess is that the barrel in this one just likes the ammo they use. You can easily go from rack grade to match accuracy just by finding the right load for a given rifle, but as Henry points out, rack grade is sufficient for practical accuracy out to 500 yards.
Barrel clamp is fine. This flex/set issue is not present in the Virtus, nor LMT’s MRP, only the Spear LT with it’s handguard screws has shown barrel deflection that seems to reset after the first round is fired.
I would agree that the new handguard retention is a poor design, it doesn’t keep the handguard rigid enough to mount a LAM on the end of the rail without worrying about it losing zero, so it doesn’t accomplish its goal anyway.
MCX uses an elegant mount design, but doesn’t pair well with IR devices. Hence why I think the gen 1 MCX, or the original LVAW, were a better choice for that purpose with their longer receiver rails, which again, I figure was part of why they had longer receiver rails to begin with.
Virtus and Spear LT have shortened that forward rail to accommodate the shorter and longer barrels with one receiver; frankly, I think they should’ve just gone with two different receiver lengths, one at LVAW length for 9” or longer barrels, and a Virtus length for the shorter ones.