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Link Posted: 3/15/2005 4:38:58 AM EDT
[#1]
ok, I ordered my application about a week ago, and I got the packet today.

However, it was missing the Certificate of Compliance paper work, had no mention of it anywhere, and didn't give me any reason to believe I needed it. It did however send me a card to order forms with in the future, on which it didn't even have the Certificate of Compliance as being available to order at all. Is it still required, or has something changed? If it is needed, should I just resubmit my order for one? The receipt only had the C&R license application listed, so I am worring that they never even got my order for it, (even though I submitted both on the same request).
Link Posted: 3/15/2005 9:14:11 AM EDT
[#2]
tagged 4 when i recieve mine!
Link Posted: 3/21/2005 11:54:27 PM EDT
[#3]
You can download the Certificate of Compliance in a PDF format here...www.titleii.com/pdf/5330-20.pdf

Your name goes in line 1 and 2 (seems stupid but that's how it works).

Sign and date line 7.
Link Posted: 4/1/2005 8:37:54 AM EDT
[#4]
just got my credit card statement,atf charged it $30.00 a week ago.when should i recieve it?
Link Posted: 4/1/2005 1:35:17 PM EDT
[#5]
They cashed my check 4 days after I sent it, got my C&R 5 weeks later.  Good luck !
Link Posted: 4/28/2005 9:50:31 AM EDT
[#6]
Sent mine off 4/12/2005 and got it 4/27/2005 but then got my address wrong,
so the wait goes on.
Link Posted: 4/28/2005 10:38:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Ive got a question for you c&r holders in michigan,  if the state has "no provisions" for full auto ownership, does the c&r licsense over ride this?  or dose the local CLEO have the final say? just wondering how that would work.  i held a regular FFL  for a long time, but let it go back in '98.

Thanks,
mike, (soon to applie for c&r)
Link Posted: 4/29/2005 12:12:13 AM EDT
[#8]
I don't believe so.  

You can buy C&R Class III weapons in MI, but you still need to go thru the normal process - LEO sign-off, ATF approval, etc.

Link Posted: 5/18/2005 5:23:19 PM EDT
[#9]
I submitted my app about 9 weeks ago, and still haven't heard anything.  Is anyone else taking this long?  I called to check on status and they said not to call back until it had been over 90 days, but it seems like 3-5 weeks is the norm.

Thanks,
SC
Link Posted: 5/18/2005 8:07:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Mine was over 3 months, IIRC.




Link Posted: 5/18/2005 8:23:22 PM EDT
[#11]
Mine only took about one month to get approved.
Link Posted: 6/18/2005 10:54:30 AM EDT
[#12]
I sent mine in in January.  They took my money on Jan. 31st.  I received my license about three days ago.  Call them and bug the crap out of them.  Ain't no telling how long mine was laying there.  I called them about 3 weeks ago and he said yeah everything checked out.  We'll get that right out to you.  Took another 2 weeks after that.  And some people want the govt to help us with health care.  You would be dead of old age before you could get any help for a headache!  
Link Posted: 7/5/2005 10:50:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dan-357] [#13]
Just got my packet and have several questions. (stupid government forms!)

Line 10 Nonimmigrant alien Certification on Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922
A. name of person certifying compliance

Do I sign this part? Do i certify myself?      I am not a nonimmigrant alien, illegal alien, or any other such nonsense.

C. Are you in possesion of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?

Why would this even matter? What does hunting have to do with C&R firearms?


Line 15

What do i put under title? Individual, private collector? Something like that?




CLEO copy, line 8 Payment information.

Can I leave this blank on the CLEO copy? I really don't like the idea of some yahoo clerk at the Sheriffs office having my CC info. Since the ATF is the one charging the fee, I see no reason why the Sheriff should have this info. Am I right on this, Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance for any help or advice,
Dan
Link Posted: 7/6/2005 11:12:58 AM EDT
[#14]
You are correct.  The CLEO has no business with you credit card info.  Leave it blank on his copy.
Link Posted: 7/6/2005 6:44:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dan-357] [#15]
Good deal, that's what I thought. In my searching, I found a site that has a step by step walkthrough of the new form, and alot of good info that answered several of my questions.

You guys may want to check it out:

www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp


Link Posted: 7/12/2005 7:47:48 PM EDT
[#16]
Need some help guys. I got my packet in today from the ATF and it has the Application for FFL C&R License, but it does not have the ATF US Citizenship certification Form F 5330.20. Where can I get the citizenship form? I went to www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm but it does not have that form listed.


Where do I go to order one?

Thanks
Link Posted: 7/13/2005 1:53:37 PM EDT
[#17]
It's now included with the new form,  Line 10 on the second page. The link I posted explains everything in detail. Probably why they don't have that form on the website anymore.
Link Posted: 7/13/2005 3:36:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 1:16:01 PM EDT
[#19]
Has anyone been hassled by local LEOs/PD for being a C&R collector?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:21:33 AM EDT
[#20]
My father wants to buy each of my sons a deer rifle, so I just sent away for my license and we are going to buy each one of them a  Mauser.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 2:15:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MRW] [#21]
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 10:43:51 PM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 9:14:59 PM EDT
[#23]
sent request for the forms.  waiting.......

i sure home that the fact that the "field division" office is in NOLA doesn't fawk me over.
Link Posted: 10/18/2005 6:01:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Mine went in the mail Oct. 9th. and they cshed my check today the 18th.
I know I probably still have a while to wait but I still feel like
Link Posted: 10/27/2005 5:24:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Alright, its been 2 months, do I call and "ask" or wait the 3 months they say?

D
Link Posted: 11/2/2005 10:32:49 AM EDT
[#26]
I finally got my C&R and....They spelled my address wrong .  I called them up and actually got a nice person who changed the address and is sending me a new license...Wow, took me all of 5 minutes.  Figures I made 25 copies of the license with the wrong address before I noticed it, too!  Ah well...Lucky the copies were free .  Now I have to wait another week before I get my new one...
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 3:21:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Application sent - 11/1/05
Check cashed - 11/8/05
License recieved - 11/23/05

I would almost call this timely, except that I would be referring to the govt. and I know better.


They need to do something about the envelope though. It looks a bit like junk mail and I almost tossed it unopened.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 4:24:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stratsandaks] [#28]

Originally Posted By Dracster:
Application sent - 11/1/05
Check cashed - 11/8/05
License recieved - 11/23/05

I would almost call this timely, except that I would be referring to the govt. and I know better.


They need to do something about the envelope though. It looks a bit like junk mail and I almost tossed it unopened.



Wow, that was quick

My application was sent-9/23
Bank account charged-9/27
License received-1/6/06

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 8:35:52 PM EDT
[#29]
It also has to do with your state apparently. If the state is quasi-commie it will take longer.
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 12:59:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Like NJ.  At least I'm about to place my first order with both Brownell's and Midway and will be saving more than the cost of my C&R.  Worth it so far .
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 10:38:59 PM EDT
[#31]
When I send the CLEO copy off on the part that shows FOR ATF USE ONLY (Application Approved / Denied, Signature of ATF official, etc...) does that have to be filled in by the ATF prior to sending it off? ie...Do I have to have the form returned by the ATF before sending it to my CLEO?
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 10:44:55 PM EDT
[#32]
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 11:21:34 PM EDT
[#33]
Roger that.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 12/9/2005 1:40:15 AM EDT
[#34]
That is fast.

I think it has more to do with your last name and who handles the accounts for that letter.  SmallChange on the NFA board has put together a running account of how long NFA items are taking people to get.  CNR FFL goes through the same people.

Sent in paperwork: 9/10/05
CC Charged: 9/27/05
Called: 11/10/05 and told I was not "put into the system" until 10/16/05 - 60-90 days from that point.  What F'ing BS, my tax dollars at  work again.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:47:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sitzkrieg] [#35]
Apps sent to F-troop and CLEO on the 17th of DEC. Let's see how long this is going to take.......

ETA-1/14 they lost page 2 pf my app. sent off replacement

ETA-2/4 Rec'd C&R AND 4 identical packages of info from the ATFE in the following week
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:38:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nate7out] [#36]
Sending forms out today, 12/28/05.  Will update for payment and receipt of license.

ETA: Credit card charged 1/2/06

ETA: Doh!  I received a letter dated 1/26/06 requesting information.  I have submitted it.  This will probably delay it a while longer.

ETA:  HELL YEAH!  Got it 2/25/06
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:09:36 AM EDT
[#37]
Application sent on 12/27/05.  

I'll update my post when I hear something.  
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 9:44:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Well I got it back on 12/28.  Took about 3 1/2 months from when I sent it in or 1 1/2 months from when they say it went into the system.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:02:40 PM EDT
[#39]
sent out today 1/11/2006. Live in Maryland. Will keep you posted.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:11:22 PM EDT
[#40]
I sent for my application one day last week, it was here on Monday.  Wow.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 2:53:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: twonami] [#41]
Uh-oh
I never got a ATF US Citizenship certification Form F 5330.20 in my packet and I mailed it already. I think I fucked up
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:02:48 PM EDT
[#42]
No you didn't. If you used the new form, section deals with Immigration issues. DO you remeber section 10 asking if you were an alien and to provide your alien registration number? If you remember that - you didn't mess up. If you used the old form, without the Immigration stuff- then you messed up.

Bill
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:21:17 PM EDT
[#43]

Originally Posted By GoingIncognito:
Like NJ.  At least I'm about to place my first order with both Brownell's and Midway and will be saving more than the cost of my C&R.  Worth it so far .



I know that Midway and Brownell's offer discounts to C&R licensees, but who else does? Does Natchez Shooter's Supply?

I just called in for my packet, and I'm looking forward to being able to save a few more pennies!
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 1:29:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GoingIncognito] [#44]
A bunch of other places do, yeah.  I believe CDNN does for sure, as does Grafs.  I can't remember any others off the top of my head.  Here's a list of dealers in this thread, though, www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=14&t=168079

I've placed one order with Brownells and one with Midway.  I've saved over the cost of my license already in dealer discounts alone!  I think between the two I've saved $40-$50!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:55:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Sent out C&R app 1/11/06. ATF debited my account 1/14/06. That was fast. Nowcomes the wait for the liscense. I live in Maryland and I have been told that is one of the states that takes the longest. Maybe the fact that I am Law Enforcement helps?? We'll have to see. First acquisition after I get the liscense- Swedish mauser.

Bill
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 7:35:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pliftkl] [#46]
Sent application 12/21.  Received license today 1/17.  Didn't notice when they took payment.

ETA:  This is going to wind up being more expensive than a crack habit.  I've had the license 24 hours and have already ordered 3 rifles...
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 4:26:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: twonami] [#47]
My CC got charged
01/20/2006 ATF LICENSING CENTER 866-6622750 GA
CASH & CHECK CARD PURCHASE  30.00
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 11:18:12 PM EDT
[#48]
Got my App in today, going out tomorrow
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:08:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Application copies went out yesterday via certified mail. Let the waiting begin...
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 3:34:54 PM EDT
[#50]

Originally Posted By Jaybo:
Application copies went out yesterday via certified mail. Let the waiting begin...



Credit card was charged this morning. Woohoo!
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