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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:45:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:50:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:50:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. wat |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. I bet you think if the internet vanished tomorrow, we could easily just flip back to how we used to do things as well, right? |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:55:26 PM EDT
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News that's setting the stage for the worse corn harvest in 80 years, which means food and gasoline shortages, higher prices, and government bailouts for farmers, all just in time for the election.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:55:35 PM EDT
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Make disc arms great again.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:56:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. Something tells me it’s not that simple, at least with any of the large volume large land area farms. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:58:31 PM EDT
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"Not sure if geomagnetic storm, or farmer Bob has Asian women on H-2Bs driving the tractors...."
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:58:32 PM EDT
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We were about 80 miles out on The Gulf yesterday and noticed our GPS was doing some wonky shit. We know how to navigate without it so it didn't matter.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:59:39 PM EDT
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Use a map.
Christ, if ancient people could do it so can they. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 2:59:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. No kidding, put the plastic buckets back on the fenceposts. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We were about 80 miles out on The Gulf yesterday and noticed our GPS was doing some wonky shit. We know how to navigate without it so it didn't matter.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: News that's setting the stage for the worse corn harvest in 80 years, which means food and gasoline shortages, higher prices, and government bailouts for farmers, all just in time for the election. That's exactly what I thought when I saw the headline. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: News that's setting the stage for the worse corn harvest in 80 years, which means food and gasoline shortages, higher prices, and government bailouts for farmers, all just in time for the election. It's a sign of christ's presence, food shortages, along with war, earthquakes, and disease. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:13:39 PM EDT
[#15]
I heard the bug farms are still ok.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Not sure if geomagnetic storm, or farmer Bob has Asian women on H-2Bs driving the tractors...." 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:15:18 PM EDT
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There’s a nugget of truth in there. Storms of this magnitude fuck shit up even here on earth. They can change a bit inside a cpu that cannot recover. A single bit error event. Not a big deal on memory. But a very big deal when it happens in a processor.
It does happen. Satellites are pretty well shielded, but something strong enough could get through. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:15:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/12/24154779/solar-storms-farmer-gps-john-deer The solar storms that have been wowing people with the Northern Lights across the United States the last two nights have also been disrupting GPS satellites, crippling some Midwest farmers' operations, reports 404 Media. The issues have forced many to stop planting just as a crucial planting deadline for corn farmers approaches. The storms reportedly knocked "some GPS systems" offline temporarily, which messed with the accuracy of "Real-Time Kinematic" (RTK) systems. Tractors from John Deere and other brands use RTK for "centimeter-level positional accuracy" when carrying out farming work like crop-planting or fertilizing, 404 Media writes. The "extremely compromised" systems caused "drastic shifts in the field and even some heading changes" for those who continued planting during the outages, according to a warning from Kansas and Nebraska John Deere dealer Landmark Implement over the weekend. Landmark said that planted rows won't be where AutoPath, a tractor guidance system, thinks they are later when it's time to tend to them, and that it could be difficult or impossible to use it in fields that were planted while GPS systems were compromised. Crippling? The planters still come with marker outriggers. Highly doubt it is crippling. Slowing down a little while the gen X father farmer has to re-teach is son how the markers work on the planter |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make disc arms great again. This. Better drag some markers out of the woods. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:18:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something tells me it’s not that simple, at least with any of the large volume large land area farms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. Something tells me it’s not that simple, at least with any of the large volume large land area farms. It is not that big a deal even with big farms. Marker outriggers are still a thing. The new generation farmers just have to revive the skill they learned from their Gen X fathers |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No kidding, put the plastic buckets back on the fenceposts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. No kidding, put the plastic buckets back on the fenceposts. Problem is that.. at least in the case of the planter I used.. if the planter has gps signal anomalies or loss the planter will not activate seed feed in the seed drills. I lost a gps antenna after a long day drive to one of the fields. Last resort was to climb on the hood and open hand smack the shit out of the antenna. That worked temporarily. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you think if the internet vanished tomorrow, we could easily just flip back to how we used to do things as well, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. I bet you think if the internet vanished tomorrow, we could easily just flip back to how we used to do things as well, right? |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:25:04 PM EDT
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A couple of local farmers told me they had problems. This is a thing. If they drive the tractors manually while planting, spraying and harvesting will be problematic and less efficient. Autosteer is so precise that it puts the machine in the exact spot, (+-2 cm), for harvest as it was for planting, reducing waste.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:27:31 PM EDT
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ITT, we learn who's never even run a rototiller before.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:27:53 PM EDT
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it's that darn global warming again
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:29:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet you think if the internet vanished tomorrow, we could easily just flip back to how we used to do things as well, right? Please continue with your Vanished Internet theme, I'll take 'notes'. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:31:05 PM EDT
[#28]
Not a farmer. But it makes perfect sense that gps greatly increases yields and efficiency.
It’s not that they can’t grow shit without it. Just they can grow much more with it and operations are faster. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:37:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Sounds gay.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:39:33 PM EDT
[#30]
So some how it's affecting tractors but not electric cars?
Fearmongering. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:40:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of local farmers told me they had problems. This is a thing. If they drive the tractors manually while planting, spraying and harvesting will be problematic and less efficient. Autosteer is so precise that it puts the machine in the exact spot, (+-2 cm), for harvest as it was for planting, reducing waste. Planting can use markers, and will be accurate enough. Chemical applications can follow existing rows or use foam marker. Harvesting follows the rows, or for non row crop you'll get a foot or so give or take of unused header as you go down the field unless you really pay attention. Yes there's definitely efficiency gains from precision farming but it's not going to make or break a farm operation by any stretch. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So some how it's affecting tractors but not electric cars? Fearmongering. Electric cars don’t precisely navigate with gps. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:42:26 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a farmer. But it makes perfect sense that gps greatly increases yields and efficiency. It’s not that they can’t grow shit without it. Just they can grow much more with it and operations are faster. Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a farmer. But it makes perfect sense that gps greatly increases yields and efficiency. It’s not that they can’t grow shit without it. Just they can grow much more with it and operations are faster. Cuts costs too. Quoted: I have a box of #2 pencils, some lined paper, and a pencil sharpener.... Please continue with your Vanished Internet theme, I'll take 'notes'. I still have my slide rule -- and remember how to use it.  |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A couple of local farmers told me they had problems. This is a thing. If they drive the tractors manually while planting, spraying and harvesting will be problematic and less efficient. Autosteer is so precise that it puts the machine in the exact spot, (+-2 cm), for harvest as it was for planting, reducing waste. Reducing waste of what? Talk to me about this efficiency you speak of. What exactly would be less efficient? How is it measured? I’m not disagreeing with you. Words get thrown about with no context and suddenly the gospel is written in stone. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:47:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a farmer. But it makes perfect sense that gps greatly increases yields and efficiency. It’s not that they can’t grow shit without it. Just they can grow much more with it and operations are faster. Fields are finite in size. You can only plant so many seeds in that finite sized area of field. GPS can help use the field to get seeds everywhere and still be able to grow the plant. There certainly is some increased benefits in a perfect world. I would like to know how much/ You are still using technology to guide mechanical equipment. Just because the GPS is enabled doesn’t mean that when it tells the planter to drop a seed, the planter drops a seed. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:47:55 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reducing waste of what? Talk to me about this efficiency you speak of. What exactly would be less efficient? How is it measured? I’m not disagreeing with you. Words get thrown about with no context and suddenly the gospel is written in stone. Reduces wasted land from unplanted strips that run the entire length of a field that can't easily be seen, seed waste from overlapping rows, chemicals when spray overlap. Efficiency is measured in dollars and cents. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:48:21 PM EDT
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Small family farms probably no big deal.
Huge 1000 acre farms it's going to be turf to do. Yes they did it in the pass but it's an acquired skill. It will also increase fuel usage adding additional cost. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:48:36 PM EDT
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anyone with their heads so far up their ass they didn't know of six X class flares with at least 4 cme hitting Earth in the last few days deserves to have their planting fucked up. just wait a couple days until the gps system is back to predictable accuracy.
I worked for the first precision farming equipment seller in the market (Deere, Collins, IH were not in yet) and even then paying attention to space weather was a thing. not sure it was called space weather back then. Internet was barely functional. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:48:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reducing waste of what? Talk to me about this efficiency you speak of. What exactly would be less efficient? How is it measured? I’m not disagreeing with you. Words get thrown about with no context and suddenly the gospel is written in stone. Fertilizer, for one. Data is collected on soil conditions at numerous points in a field and them mapped. The machine automatically adjusts the flow of fertilizer based on the GPS coordinates of the machine. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reducing waste of what? Talk to me about this efficiency you speak of. What exactly would be less efficient? How is it measured? I’m not disagreeing with you. Words get thrown about with no context and suddenly the gospel is written in stone. Bushels per acre iirc. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 3:56:36 PM EDT
[#41]
The more society is dependent on technology the more fragile the whole thing becomes.
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:00:15 PM EDT
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I ran a planter for Simplot that would plant variable rate and switch between two hybrids. We were putting down nitrogen and in furrow fertilizer at variable rates. That very much depended on gps for precision.
Edit: it’s not needed to grow corn but many guys are relying on technology to maximize efficiency. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:10:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ran a planter for Simplot that would plant variable rate and switch between two hybrids. We were putting down nitrogen and in furrow fertilizer at variable rates. That very much depended on gps for precision. Edit: it’s not needed to grow corn but many guys are relying on technology to maximize efficiency. What’s the impact of treating it like a weather event and waiting a few days for it to clear up? |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:14:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: News that's setting the stage for the worse corn harvest in 80 years, which means food and gasoline shortages, higher prices, and government bailouts for farmers, all just in time for the election. We don’t need corn for gasoline. The only reason corn has any connection at all to the fuels industry is due to farmers lobbying congress for more socialistic handouts on top of all the existing government welfare they already get. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:45:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not that big a deal even with big farms. Marker outriggers are still a thing. The new generation farmers just have to revive the skill they learned from their Gen X fathers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. Something tells me it’s not that simple, at least with any of the large volume large land area farms. It is not that big a deal even with big farms. Marker outriggers are still a thing. The new generation farmers just have to revive the skill they learned from their Gen X fathers Kinda like learning to shoot with iron sights first |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:49:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:57:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 4:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the impact of treating it like a weather event and waiting a few days for it to clear up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I ran a planter for Simplot that would plant variable rate and switch between two hybrids. We were putting down nitrogen and in furrow fertilizer at variable rates. That very much depended on gps for precision. Edit: it’s not needed to grow corn but many guys are relying on technology to maximize efficiency. What’s the impact of treating it like a weather event and waiting a few days for it to clear up? You miss the best planting times and your schedule slips. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the impact of treating it like a weather event and waiting a few days for it to clear up? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I ran a planter for Simplot that would plant variable rate and switch between two hybrids. We were putting down nitrogen and in furrow fertilizer at variable rates. That very much depended on gps for precision. Edit: it’s not needed to grow corn but many guys are relying on technology to maximize efficiency. What’s the impact of treating it like a weather event and waiting a few days for it to clear up? @Grendelsbane All depends on how many acres you have and your equipment. I worked for some drylanders and we planted 10,000 acres of wheat. We started in the end of August and got three inches of rain that set us back. I didn’t finish planting until the end of October. We had 5000 acres that was too small and dirt started blowing in the winter. It ruined half that crop. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:34:10 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's the biggest non issue turned news article I'll read this week. Farmers have been doing it with GPS since we figured out how to put seeds in the ground. The biggest issue here is now they can't Instagram while the tractor auto drives. How many planters still have markers on them? My RTK worked just fine the last couple of days. |
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