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Posted: 3/20/2024 8:09:12 PM EDT
Take with a big grain of salt.  -sq40

https://www.ilgiornaleditalia.it/news/esteri/583768/vaticano-e-in-arrivo-la-nuova-teologia-ecco-in-esclusiva-il-testo-che-sta-circolando-riservatamente-tra-gesuiti-domenicani-francescani-e-benedettini.html

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Vatican, the New Theology is coming. Here is the exclusive text that is circulating confidentially among Jesuits, Dominicans, Franciscans and Benedictines

We managed to obtain an exclusive draft of the document which concerns what should be the key points of a New Theology which also seems to be inspired by Pope Bergoglio's encyclical "Fratelli tutti" but expanded to a Cosmological version and vision. A text that is circulating confidentially among Jesuits, Dominicans, Franciscans and Benedictines and which also seems to follow Psalm 24 (23) where it is written "the earth and its contents, the universe and its inhabitants", often cited also by Mons. Balducci.

Could this be why American intelligence has begun to make research on UFOs official? Do they also prepare people for this revolutionary theological text? We live in a time of great change.

Meanwhile, from what we understand, a very high-level and extremely confidential summit is being prepared. Centers for International Preliminary Strategies will welcome the Deep State of some States, including; USA, China, Russia, UK, Germany, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, South Africa, India and Brazil.

The good geopolitics foresees some levels of development. The first level indicates an increasingly clear demarcation between East and West. The second level is a clash between these two platforms, at a political, economic, cultural, technological, cybernetic and military level as is already happening in some areas, see in Ukraine, Gaza and perhaps soon in Taiwan, the Balkans, the Baltics, the Koreas and other areas .

During these clashes, the two hemispheres in opposition will try to impose their own management system for guiding the future on the Planet. We can see an example in the economic sector, where we could see the insertion of digital currencies (not cryptocurrencies which will be considered no longer legal) managed by central banks and where the East will put raw materials (gold, wheat, rare earths etc.) as underlying ) and the West will try to endow the single individual with a value, as preached and described in the encyclical by Pope Francis, i.e. a Universal income.

Like all macro changes, these too require crises and shock events to break current agreements and form new ones. In short, pandemics, wars, natural disasters are nothing more than ingredients used by both groups to push this profound change. Suffice it to remember that to switch from coal to oil in between, humanity had to face a World War. In short, surprises are expected on a global level.

The new theology will teach that we are not alone in the Universe, that God is not an abstract being, but that he is the Omnicreating Intelligence, the energy that spreads and the Light that creates Galaxies and Solar Systems. Therefore, the Universe represents life and terrestrial man is not the only interior of Intelligence-Spirit. Indeed, from the smallest atom to the largest Galaxy they are all living beings. Suns, Galaxies, Planets are alive and possess an Intelligence, which has, at times, incarnated in men, to speak to men and help them in their evolution.

The new theology will eliminate rites and the exaltation of religious concepts: they will be replaced by teaching concepts that will have to be put into practice directly in every manifestation of daily life. Furthermore, it explains that the Universe is the paradise of Creation and hell is everything negative that man chooses, by virtue of his free will and that Purgatory is nothing other than the purification of the effects resulting from the causes generated by man.

The new theology will explain that man is intelligent, that his spirit is eternal, that there is an eternal spiritual realm, that death does not exist, that Life is eternal and that the Spirit evolves through the process of reincarnations. For this reason, the intelligences that live and develop in the Universe are all brothers and sisters of us who live on this Planet, because we all, us and them, possess the Spirit.

The new theology will not be divided between religions, but will unite all the races of this Planet in an agreement of brotherhood and for thus, it is essential that in the final phase of this century we become aware of the fundamental reality which shows us that we are not alone in Universe; that Divine Intelligence created human Life and spiritual Life in other Galaxies; that contact with other civilizations would reverse the crisis situation of this planet of ours and would project humanity towards the establishment of a super civilization, without catastrophes and without profound crises. The change will have to occur by law of evolution; other Beings descended from the stars or from evolved Worlds will be sent by cosmic intelligence to help human evolution; Christ is the top/peak of this pyramid of evolved Beings.

Religion is one, the message is one and contains the absolute truth which is the original content of all the messages that have been given to man throughout the history of this Humanity.

The new theology will espouse science and they will be one; the scientist will develop technological processes for the benefit of the whole society, based on the "Law of the spirit", while the religious person will develop spiritual philosophy and its concepts that will merge with the development of technology. Thus the new theology will teach that we are one thing with the being that lives inside us (soul, energy), that imbues us with its creating and life-giving Light. This Light is God, Love and Justice, Omniscient and Omnipotent Light from which everything begins and to which everything returns: God. It will therefore be taught that the Universes are the vital organs of this Cosmic Being, while Solar Systems and Planets are the cells of Its body and their Humanities (of Solar Systems and Planets) are its enzymes, which must elaborate and coordinate life on the cell.

In the Cosmic being, or Macrocosm, there are, as in our body which is a microcosm, antibodies which are highly evolved Beings, which know and obey the Divine Law and for this reason can circulate freely in it and process what is necessary for it and eliminate what is harmful. No “enzyme” foreign to the cell is allowed to enter it if the former constitutes danger to the latter. In fact, even the cells of the Cosmic Being are equipped with their self-defenses and these are the four primordial elements of Creation (fire, air, water, earth), but also with self destruction, if necessary, to amonish the man.

It has been said: “what is below is similar to what is above” and again: “know yourself and you will know God”.

This is the concept of the new theology.
Link Posted: 3/20/2024 9:28:49 PM EDT
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Sounds like Buddhism.
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 12:39:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/21/2024 12:53:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sq40:
Take with a big grain of salt.  -sq40

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Yyyyyyeah.  There's no way the world's major religions are giving up any morsel of their power.

Link Posted: 3/21/2024 12:58:14 AM EDT
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Wierd stuff happens and people will believe anything (and act on it) but I think I'll file that one in the folder with "this tax is temporary, pinkie swear."
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 12:58:17 AM EDT
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sounds like the whore from Johns Revelation?!
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 7:49:55 AM EDT
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Don't you mess with my Bitcoin!

Link Posted: 3/21/2024 8:00:46 AM EDT
[#7]
It’s the doctrine of demons.
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 8:10:30 AM EDT
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So the doctrine of rooti tooti fresh and frooti?






Link Posted: 3/21/2024 9:28:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Yyyyyyeah.  There's no way the world's major religions are giving up any morsel of their power.

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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By sq40:
Take with a big grain of salt.  -sq40


Yyyyyyeah.  There's no way the world's major religions are giving up any morsel of their power.



Yeah. I don't see it happening either. That would be a huge shift and I cant imagine everyone just throwing away all religion to embrace this one.
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 10:48:54 AM EDT
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That’s what I got out of it too
Link Posted: 3/21/2024 10:30:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Yyyyyyeah.  There's no way the world's major religions are giving up any morsel of their power.

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Originally Posted By sq40:
Take with a big grain of salt.  -sq40


Yyyyyyeah.  There's no way the world's major religions are giving up any morsel of their power.



Who says they are giving up anything? They will attempt to appropriate the movement and claim they were always at the helm of the topic.
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 12:19:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By engineer61:
Sounds like Buddhism.
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listening to a podcast today and he was saying you basically 2 religions, the 'mystery religion (all things that are opposite of "good") and Jesus Christ

podcast is "dispatches from reality"  was talking about the french revolution and how "crazy" it was.... super interesting
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 7:26:16 AM EDT
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This is some end times stuff… the unification of all religions.
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Another wide road to hell.

The Vatican knows nothing of Jesus.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 4:30:13 AM EDT
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The universal church of corporate "Christianity" has been prophesied to bring satans religion to us. Satan decieves the whole world into this concept with signs and lying wonders as the Bible puts it. His false prophet calling down fire from the sky in the sight of men? Thats high technology from the spiritual realm, or higher Dimensions as most would reason. The UFO narrative is going to usher this in. Its the only thing left to shake up the world. Traditional religion cant do it anymore.

Matt 24: 24 (NLT) For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones.

The whole world, even atheists and non religious people are going to buy into this garbage.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 4:50:56 AM EDT
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Matthew 24:3-5
King James Version
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 5:20:39 PM EDT
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Yeah, I mean except the part about God, Omnicreating Intelligence, Suns, Galaxies and Planets  that are alive, that the Universe is paradise, the bit about Pergatory, Divine Intelligience, evolution, Beings descended from the stars, Christ, and a few other things.

But I see your point.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 9:52:40 PM EDT
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https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/vatican-preparing-guidelines-apparitions-supernatural-phenomena

uhhh....what?????

"The Holy See Press Office announced the upcoming document will be published May 17 with a live-streamed press conference featuring Prefect for the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández.

Fernández has previously said the dicastery is "in the process of finalizing a new text with clear guidelines and norms for the discernment of apparitions and other phenomena," according to the National Catholic Register."
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 10:03:11 PM EDT
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That sounds like Revelation.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 9:06:28 PM EDT
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This is not new.  It's new as a Catholic doctrine.  It reminds me of a book I once read titled The Universal One.  But the idea that the planets have intelligence and descent to earth from time to time is basic pantheism.  It's actually addressed in the early church.
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:02:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
This is not new.  It's new as a Catholic doctrine.  It reminds me of a book I once read titled The Universal One.  But the idea that the planets have intelligence and descent to earth from time to time is basic pantheism.  It's actually addressed in the early church.
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can you elaborate on this?  I am a cradle Catholic and havent heard of this?

"It will therefore be taught that the Universes are the vital organs of this Cosmic Being, while Solar Systems and Planets are the cells of Its body and their Humanities (of Solar Systems and Planets) are its enzymes, which must elaborate and coordinate life on the cell

That is nothing like what I've been taught.  Yes, God created everything, but some of this is perverting Doctrine
Link Posted: 5/16/2024 9:59:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ender875:

can you elaborate on this?  I am a cradle Catholic and havent heard of this?

"It will therefore be taught that the Universes are the vital organs of this Cosmic Being, while Solar Systems and Planets are the cells of Its body and their Humanities (of Solar Systems and Planets) are its enzymes, which must elaborate and coordinate life on the cell

That is nothing like what I've been taught.  Yes, God created everything, but some of this is perverting Doctrine
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Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
This is not new.  It's new as a Catholic doctrine.  It reminds me of a book I once read titled The Universal One.  But the idea that the planets have intelligence and descent to earth from time to time is basic pantheism.  It's actually addressed in the early church.

can you elaborate on this?  I am a cradle Catholic and havent heard of this?

"It will therefore be taught that the Universes are the vital organs of this Cosmic Being, while Solar Systems and Planets are the cells of Its body and their Humanities (of Solar Systems and Planets) are its enzymes, which must elaborate and coordinate life on the cell

That is nothing like what I've been taught.  Yes, God created everything, but some of this is perverting Doctrine
It is not doctrinal.  It's not taught in catechism.  What is being proposed is a combination of heretical teaching and good old school paganism.  What I meant was that each part of this new theology has existed before and now it's being reintroduced with a very good dose of new age language.  Almost everything in the new theology is demonic.

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1. Calling God omnicreating is to say he is not the living God through whom all things consist.  Many pagan belief systems hold an idea that there is a creative god who made everything then stepped away.
2. Putting Jesus on top of a hierarchy over other beings is a way of separating the Trinity.  Jesus, The Father and the Holy Spirit are one and where there in the beginning.  There's been many heretical religions that are anti trinitarian.  This new age heresy I've observed in the 90s in the new age movement.  
3. The belief that the planets have intelligence goes way back.  This is making a comeback with the Gaia movement.  Goes hand in hand with the anthropomorphic ideas about "mother nature" and statements like "the earth has a fever"
So when I say it was addressed, I mean the heresy was driven out by the church.  If the Vatican really published such a document that would be an immediate schism.



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Was it officially released yet?  I guess I could check the Vaticans website as well.
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Originally Posted By JGPSTAHL:
It is not doctrinal.  It's not taught in catechism.  What is being proposed is a combination of heretical teaching and good old school paganism.  What I meant was that each part of this new theology has existed before and now it's being reintroduced with a very good dose of new age language.  Almost everything in the new theology is demonic.

Edit to add:
1. Calling God omnicreating is to say he is not the living God through whom all things consist.  Many pagan belief systems hold an idea that there is a creative god who made everything then stepped away.
2. Putting Jesus on top of a hierarchy over other beings is a way of separating the Trinity.  Jesus, The Father and the Holy Spirit are one and where there in the beginning.  There's been many heretical religions that are anti trinitarian.  This new age heresy I've observed in the 90s in the new age movement.  
3. The belief that the planets have intelligence goes way back.  This is making a comeback with the Gaia movement.  Goes hand in hand with the anthropomorphic ideas about "mother nature" and statements like "the earth has a fever"
So when I say it was addressed, I mean the heresy was driven out by the church.  If the Vatican really published such a document that would be an immediate schism.



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Gotcha, thanks.  I thought you were meaning that this was not new as a teaching of the Church.  That was not the case though.  I agree with everything you have written. Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 9:45:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tazaroo:
Was it officially released yet?  I guess I could check the Vaticans website as well.
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yes it's been released:
https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2024/05/17/240517h.html
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 9:53:15 AM EDT
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Will we still need to donate money under this new theology?




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Link Posted: 5/17/2024 9:53:17 AM EDT
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Fake News Alert.. Shoes of the Fisherman.  Seems totally bogus.
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 11:11:31 AM EDT
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Dont see anything about stars and planets in there on a word search. I'll read it later though....
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 1:17:30 PM EDT
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Revelation 22:18-19

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Link Posted: 5/17/2024 1:57:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:
Dont see anything about stars and planets in there on a word search. I'll read it later though....
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whats been released on the Vatican website is the update on "'guidelines' for 'apparitions', 'other supernatural phenomena'"
not the new theology bullshit
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