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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:15:06 PM EST
  Colt 1911 70 Series (not repro-made in early 80s) Gov’t model. Recently acquired the pistol and noticed slide is “too far forward”. I’ve researched and scoured the “1911 forums” and think maybe it could be: A. Barrel lug issue B. Slide release pin placement (off spec) C. Cosmetic issue (either slide is cut too short or frame is cut too long). Pistol doesn’t look like it’s been fired much at all. Came with the original box with Colt “pachmayr grips” and Colt wood grips. Any input/help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:21:44 PM EST
[#1]
Those edges look almost too rounded. Maybe the previous owner got a little heavy-handed with the buffing wheel?
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:23:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: QCMGR]
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Originally Posted By thewildman18: https://i.postimg.cc/qRg4XWXp/208-E88-AE-3710-4-B1-D-9-CD9-E4-F009945925.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/nLXnq61p/39-B1-F50-C-1-B9-A-41-BE-8-FAA-9-D79-DC3-CAD1-F.jpg Colt 1911 70 Series (not repro-made in early 80s) Gov’t model. Recently acquired the pistol and noticed slide is “too far forward”. I’ve researched and scoured the “1911 forums” and think maybe it could be: A. Barrel lug issue B. Slide release pin placement (off spec) C. Cosmetic issue (either slide is cut too short or frame is cut too long). Pistol doesn’t look like it’s been fired much at all. Came with the original box with Colt “pachmayr grips” and Colt wood grips. Any input/help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance It looks like it has been buffed and refinished or had some type of “melt” job. Look how this is sharp and not rounded.  Attached File Attached FileCan you post a picture of the full pistol from both sides? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:29:33 PM EST
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   Yes, I’m noticing some inconsistencies with this pistol. Allegedly, this pistol has never been refinished. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:30:58 PM EST
[#4]
What’s a “melt job”?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:35:33 PM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:45:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: fxntime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: https://i.postimg.cc/mkgzMT8V/1-CEEE202-C700-4088-9-E64-DAB560535-EAE.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/KzvvpJB8/34-AE55-BC-EB94-4-EBE-82-B1-48428-FB3-AC33.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Pf7rKbxd/C3376954-13-A5-4-B4-A-872-E-728249565-EF2.jpg Yes, I’m noticing some inconsistencies with this pistol. Allegedly, this pistol has never been refinished. "Allegedly.'' HAH!!!! Here is a un-refinished series 70. [9mm] Even during the bad ol' series 70's days, Colt did a pretty decent flat polish and crisp roll marks.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:49:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: "Allegedly.'' HAH!!!! So, this was a “replacement” for my original pistol that the gunsmith damaged. I’m guessing this is not such a honest deal? |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:52:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: QCMGR]
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: What’s a “melt job”? It is when all the sharp edges of a 1911 are rounded over.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:54:59 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: So, this was a “replacement” for my original pistol that the gunsmith damaged. I’m guessing this is not such a honest deal? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: Originally Posted By fxntime: "Allegedly.'' HAH!!!! So, this was a “replacement” for my original pistol that the gunsmith damaged. I’m guessing this is not such a honest deal? No. That's a $350-$400 on it's best day Colt 1911. Horrible polish job, the flats are trashed and the roll marks are smeared it was buffed so hard. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 11:56:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: No. That's a $350-$400 on it's best day Colt 1911. Horrible polish job, the flats are trashed and the roll marks are smeared it was buffed so hard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By thewildman18: Originally Posted By fxntime: "Allegedly.'' HAH!!!! So, this was a “replacement” for my original pistol that the gunsmith damaged. I’m guessing this is not such a honest deal? No. That's a $350-$400 on it's best day Colt 1911. Horrible polish job, the flats are trashed and the roll marks are smeared it was buffed so hard. I got to go with this. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2023 12:00:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: thewildman18]
[#11]
Wow, thanks for the info. I’m going to have to demand something different. This is absolutely ridiculous. They grossly oversized the slide cuts (had Novak rear and Wilson dovetail) on my original 1911 and then attempted to tig weld it but it looked like trash.
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Posted: 9/9/2023 12:02:36 AM EST
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PS, that hammer is atrocious.
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Posted: 9/9/2023 12:04:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: Wow, thanks for the info. I’m going to have to demand something different. This is absolutely ridiculous. They grossly oversized the slide cuts (had Novak rear and Wilson dovetail) on my original 1911 and then attempted to tig weld it but it looked like trash. I would be pissed! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2023 10:27:09 AM EST
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Thin “new” replacement from same era is because the gunsmith damaged my original pistol (same model). They were supposed to mill & install Novak rear cut and Wilson front dovetail (both Wilson sights) and totally screwed it up. They attempted to tig weld the massive front sight cut, but in the end the slide looked fairly rough. Later, I noticed the rear sight was completely canted as well. I guess the question is; what is more “repairable” my original pistol or this current “new” pistol? Posting pics of the original pistol.
 “Wilson dovetails cut” on the original pistol   Tig weld and “repair”   Canted rear sight (my initials were engraved and I marked them out in red-was a gift from my dad). |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 11:14:51 AM EST
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Looks like you are dealing with a gunsmith who is learning on the job. That work looks awful and I suspect he did the work on the replacement pistol as well.
I'd ask for a box stock new colt 1911. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 12:33:09 PM EST
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imho, Someone rounded the slide, I doubt Colt let it out of the factory with those edges or finish.
If the slide hadn't been rounded at the base, I'd bet it would align with the receiver the way it should.   |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2023 1:27:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: No. That's a $350-$400 on it's best day Colt 1911. Horrible polish job, the flats are trashed and the roll marks are smeared it was buffed so hard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By thewildman18: Originally Posted By fxntime: "Allegedly.'' HAH!!!! So, this was a “replacement” for my original pistol that the gunsmith damaged. I’m guessing this is not such a honest deal? No. That's a $350-$400 on it's best day Colt 1911. Horrible polish job, the flats are trashed and the roll marks are smeared it was buffed so hard. I hate nto say it, but I agree with this. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 1:34:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raygixxer89: Those edges look almost too rounded. Maybe the previous owner got a little heavy-handed with the buffing wheel? FPNI |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 1:46:21 PM EST
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What a shit show.
 I 'think" a good smith can, or can have someone else, weld or micro-weld the dovetails on the slide on your original pistol and then recut them. But it'll probably cost, and is definitely beyond the ability of the yutz who did this. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 1:56:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewildman18: Thin “new” replacement from same era is because the gunsmith damaged my original pistol (same model). They were supposed to mill & install Novak rear cut and Wilson front dovetail (both Wilson sights) and totally screwed it up. They attempted to tig weld the massive front sight cut, but in the end the slide looked fairly rough. Later, I noticed the rear sight was completely canted as well. I guess the question is; what is more “repairable” my original pistol or this current “new” pistol? Posting pics of the original pistol. https://i.postimg.cc/vBwkG7sw/3-E656-E32-9-DA8-456-D-BDFE-5-C8634622-C63.jpg “Wilson dovetails cut” on the original pistol https://i.postimg.cc/nz1RZ62q/5581730-A-C293-4132-B9-B8-E56-A72-EECE66.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/TY5VJzbQ/A0-D7-FAFD-1-B58-4185-B599-1-D29-E178267-C.jpg Tig weld and “repair” https://i.postimg.cc/ZYM8t7c2/D4-FBAFB0-0013-4142-BFC0-B557-AD174991.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Yqt4hT3h/F705-F2-B6-A39-F-42-AD-BFB6-FF6-CB3-B482-BE.jpg Canted rear sight (my initials were engraved and I marked them out in red-was a gift from my dad). That is terrible! Who did that? |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 7:28:09 PM EST
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 WOW. Customer's products, is no place for .jr gunsmith to OJT. |
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