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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:33:47 AM EDT
As most of you know (or maybe you don't) my company buys PD trade in guns and equipment. About 8 months ago I received a a bunch of Remington 700 from an agency and decided to keep one. The one I kept is a 308 WIN Remington 700 action, GA Precision heavy barrel (24") on a McMillan A5 stock. It also has a badger scope base. Here is my issue, I have not been able to get a group with it. I have tried 5 different types/grains of ammo (all match), two different shooters and two different scopes (Leupold and Vortex) and still noting:) The scope base is tight and has no movement (torqued down). The barrel crown looks to be in great shape and the barrel itself looks relatively new (check with a bore scope). When it comes to shooting we are talking 8-10" groups at 100 yards, and when I say groups I mean a bunch of holes... There is no consistency to the holes; one may be low left and the next one dead center then the next high right. Same results with different shooter/optics, and ammo. Anyone have any ideas? I can take pictures. I also have no issue sending it off to a good gunsmith to have them check it out! I don't think it is the barrel but who knows..
Thanks for the help! Peter |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:41:44 AM EDT
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Check the stock torque and mounting,possibly even "skim bed" the mounting surface.
Composite stocks are 45 inch pound,wood is 15 inch pound,these are remington specs not sure about McMillian specs Good luck.....somethings loose somewhere. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:45:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By blastermike: As most of you know (or maybe you don't) my company buys PD trade in guns and equipment. About 8 months ago I received a a bunch of Remington 700 from an agency and decided to keep one. The one I kept is a 308 WIN Remington 700 action, GA Precision heavy barrel (24") on a McMillan A5 stock. It also has a badger scope base. Here is my issue, I have not been able to get a group with it. I have tried 5 different types/grains of ammo (all match), two different shooters and two different scopes (Leupold and Vortex) and still noting:) The scope base is tight and has no movement (torqued down). The barrel crown looks to be in great shape and the barrel itself looks relatively new (check with a bore scope). When it comes to shooting we are talking 8-10" groups at 100 yards, and when I say groups I mean a bunch of holes... There is no consistency to the holes; one may be low left and the next one dead center then the next high right. Same results with different shooter/optics, and ammo. Anyone have any ideas? I can take pictures. I also have no issue sending it off to a good gunsmith to have them check it out! I don't think it is the barrel but who knows.. Thanks for the help! Peter Well it was probably turned in for a reason.  Did they give you a round count book with it? They should have been keeping track being a PD. I would say it's definitely the barrel if everything else is tight and on correctly then that would be the only thing. Did you give it a good deep cleaning before shooting it? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:46:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By majg1234: Composite stocks are 45 inch pound,wood is 15 inch pound,these are remington specs not sure about McMillian specs That set up would be 65 in/lbs on the action screws. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 9:55:43 AM EDT
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Gave it a great cleaning before shooting. Sadly no round count books. All the other rifles shot great.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 10:16:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blastermike: Gave it a great cleaning before shooting. Sadly no round count books. All the other rifles shot great. Probably just shot out then. Have to replace the barrel. One other thing, what is the barrel twist and what bullets/ammo have you been using? Wondering if it could be some special twist barrel the PD had made for some special bullet they use and might not be working with the bullets/ammo you have been using. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:01:51 PM EDT
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Slug the bore.
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:46:10 PM EDT
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Inspect it.
Starting at the muzzle...crown...muzzle device...torque spec on device...damage. Bore condition. Inspect clearly, clean it properly, dry it. Chamber condition...same. Bolt...factory? Modified? Headspace? Lugs? Lug seats? Extractor/Ejector? Handle timed correctly? Extraction in line with specs? Action- Trued, square, mount is correct, bolt is not binding, bolt raceways are straight and not twisted, no odd mods for magazines? Stock...bedding, interface, free floated barrel? Ammo- Gold Medal? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:56:35 PM EDT
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Maybe it’s not the rifle . No insult op but I didn’t see in your post what kind of shooting you are doing .
Are you using a rest ? Prone ? Sand bag ? These all make a huge difference from just free hand . I got my son a shooting bench/ table for Christmas just for this reason . Good Luck . |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 2:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ranman223: Maybe it’s not the rifle . No insult op but I didn’t see in your post what kind of shooting you are doing . Are you using a rest ? Prone ? Sand bag ? These all make a huge difference from just free hand . I got my son a shooting bench/ table for Christmas just for this reason . Good Luck . None taken. All done from a sled or rest. Shot my MK12 with it too. Sub MOA so I figured it wasn't me. Also had a friend shoot it, same issues. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 2:26:17 PM EDT
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Sounds like the rifle needs a new barrel. The only way to check that is with a borescope -- maybe a Stoney Point tool to see how far out the throat is.
I've never heard of a GA Precision gun that didn't shoot well. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 2:41:34 PM EDT
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That's what I said! I called them and I hope to be able to send it back. I just want a good rifle!!!!
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blastermike: That's what I said! I called them and I hope to be able to send it back. I just want a good rifle!!!! Yeah just send it back and have them put a new barrel on. Not like it's under any warranty and they have to fix anything. LOL Unknown round count and shooting like that just get the barrel replaced and get shooting. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:18:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By blastermike: As most of you know (or maybe you don't) my company buys PD trade in guns and equipment. About 8 months ago I received a a bunch of Remington 700 from an agency and decided to keep one. The one I kept is a 308 WIN Remington 700 action, GA Precision heavy barrel (24") on a McMillan A5 stock. It also has a badger scope base. Here is my issue, I have not been able to get a group with it. I have tried 5 different types/grains of ammo (all match), two different shooters and two different scopes (Leupold and Vortex) and still noting:) The scope base is tight and has no movement (torqued down). The barrel crown looks to be in great shape and the barrel itself looks relatively new (check with a bore scope). When it comes to shooting we are talking 8-10" groups at 100 yards, and when I say groups I mean a bunch of holes... There is no consistency to the holes; one may be low left and the next one dead center then the next high right. Same results with different shooter/optics, and ammo. Anyone have any ideas? I can take pictures. I also have no issue sending it off to a good gunsmith to have them check it out! I don't think it is the barrel but who knows.. Thanks for the help! Peter Call or send it to GAP? They built it maybe they would like to look it over and diagnose it. |
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