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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:21:12 AM EDT
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Polk County deputies hurt, suspect killed in shootout |
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On The Edge Of Ybor City
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Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it.
They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. |
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Celebrating the remains of the Second Amendment one Fine Firearm at a Time. It was better here before.
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For sovereign citizens broken windows theory refers to their car.
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I wonder why they have not released the ID of the guy.
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By Aspida1776: Are there any meetings in my area or a pamphlet? Perhaps a newsletter that I could subscribe to? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Aspida1776: Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. Are there any meetings in my area or a pamphlet? Perhaps a newsletter that I could subscribe to? There’s tons of resources online. However, being a SC often involves violence, with some cop killing involved from time to time. Just depends how far you wanna take it. I’m sure several here are down. |
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connoisseur of fine Soviet and European armored vehicles
Let's go Brandon CINCAFUGD |
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Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. View Quote Taxation is theft. Paying for vehicle regestrarion is a furthurance of taxation by other means. |
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Originally Posted By PeepEater: So how do you propose common goods be funded? Roads, bridges, and such? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By Shootindave: Taxation is theft. Paying for vehicle regestrarion is a furthurance of taxation by other means. So how do you propose common goods be funded? Roads, bridges, and such? Where 5% of my taxes go? Thats where you want to prod for debate. Lol. I have professionally audited public spending allocations. You might have that foot stomping discussion with someone else. If you can’t figure out that our tax structure is based upon theft, you pay taxes without following up on their use by looking at tax money allocation. People also don’t even know their total tax liability after paying sales tax on everything under the sun……. Using the income that has already been taxed to buy the goods/services. |
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Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Good for them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. Good for them. Except they do like scamming the gov't to take taxpayer money. I'm guessing a lot of them like welfare and other gov't benefits as well. |
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Originally Posted By FMJ3: Except they do like scamming the gov't to take taxpayer money. I'm guessing a lot of them like welfare and other gov't benefits as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FMJ3: Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. Good for them. Except they do like scamming the gov't to take taxpayer money. I'm guessing a lot of them like welfare and other gov't benefits as well. Yes, they are leaches of welfare funding. Which is no different than institutional inner city social service programming designed to cycle generations of children into poverty dependance. |
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Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. View Quote Every American should aspire to do this |
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Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. Because they typically are democrats in democrat cities they get away with it. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. View Quote The one's I've had the pleasure to know and experience were likely conservative kooks. Not democrats. I knew of one who was a "true believer" but most of the rest just pinning some hope on some way to make up for bad luck or poor choices in money management to keep a little bit to themselves so the government wouldn't collapse their world. Many were just plain cons in my estimation. They just didn't want to play the game so they didn't, at least until there was no choice. I would also say most were on the lower end of the I.Q. scale. |
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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” President Gerald Ford
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Moors is a term generally used by Europeans to describe the Muslim people of North Africa and the Iberian Peninsula during the Middle Ages.
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Cheesecake OG 1,2,3 and Cold War. Knight of Wonder. Nothing rhymes with apocalypse, except maybe taco lips-Carl Poppa
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He was a Moorish sovereign citizen.
The Moorish sovereign citizen movement, sometimes called the indigenous sovereign citizen movement, is a small sub-group of sovereign citizens that mainly holds to the teachings of the Moorish Science Temple of America, in that that African Americans are descendants of the Moabites and thus are "Moorish" by nationality, and Islamic by faith.[1] View Quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_sovereign_citizens |
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On The Edge Of Ybor City
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Here are two YT channels that have a lot of videos showing Sovereign Citizens in action. They're good for laughs. Basically there are two kinds of SC videos - SCs getting owned by police during traffic stops, and SCs getting owned by judges in court.
https://www.youtube.com/@VanBalion https://www.youtube.com/@LawTalkWithMike ETA here are a couple more, less focused on SCs but lots of funny courtroom scenes with pro se dumbassery. https://www.youtube.com/@TeamSkeptic https://www.youtube.com/@CreedenceandMikey |
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Everywhere we go, we are surrounded by people who stumble through life dependent upon the vigilance and/or kindness of others. - Zardoz
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Not that I really side with sovereign citizens but everyone should be rioting over how badly we're taxed, it's thievery.
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Originally Posted By SDGlock23: Not that I really side with sovereign citizens but everyone should be rioting over how badly we're taxed, it's thievery. View Quote The problem could be solved by people putting more thought into voting, but that's not likely to happen because most people are easily fooled by false promises such as only "the rich" will be taxed. |
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Everywhere we go, we are surrounded by people who stumble through life dependent upon the vigilance and/or kindness of others. - Zardoz
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We are over taxed. The United Kingdom makes us look like pikers, however.
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Pathetic earthlings... who can save you now?
TX, USA
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Pathetic earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void, without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe, anything at all, you would've hidden from it in terror.
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For clarification, this was a Moorish Sovereign Citizen, not Posse Comitatus or Montana Freemen, and most definitely not someone like Cliven Bundy from the ranch standoff.
(ETA: beat while I was looking them up) |
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Originally Posted By CAsoldier: For sovereign citizens broken windows theory refers to their car. View Quote There was a sovereign citizen in Utah shot when he was pulled over by a small town police dept for no plates nonsense. He eventually pulled a gun and was shot. His mother got him into the SC nonsense. A video eventually surfaced of the same PD pulling her over for the same BS. But they let the mom go. I'm sure, like most parents who get their kids killed in criminal conduct she blames the police. I've known some SC. With some it seems like almost like insanity with a complicated nonsensical belief system. |
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Are the moors the guys with the fez hats?
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Everywhere we go, we are surrounded by people who stumble through life dependent upon the vigilance and/or kindness of others. - Zardoz
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Originally Posted By Aspida1776: Are there any meetings in my area or a pamphlet? Perhaps a newsletter that I could subscribe to? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Aspida1776: Originally Posted By Paul: Sovereign citizens and the other off-shoots are 100% about not paying taxes. They pay no income tax, real estate taxes, or car registration fees. Are there any meetings in my area or a pamphlet? Perhaps a newsletter that I could subscribe to? My wife's cousin apparently is one now.......I thought about dressing as a British naval officer from the Colonial period and going to speak to him about Admiralty Courts on Halloween |
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Old things are keys to memories, so keep the ones you can. Cause the journey's where you're going, but it's also where you've been.
The adventure begins where the comfort zone ends. Don't let the old man in. |
Originally Posted By flcracker: For clarification, this was a Moorish Sovereign Citizen, not Posse Comitatus or Montana Freemen, and most definitely not someone like Cliven Bundy from the ranch standoff. (ETA: beat while I was looking them up) View Quote Nuwabian? |
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Originally Posted By GrizzlyAdams: That's by design. Confuses anyone listening and attract fellow scammers at the same time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Yes. The Law Talk With Mike channel has a lot of videos of them, and Mike often puts on a fez in their honor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By Aimless: Are the moors the guys with the fez hats? Yes. The Law Talk With Mike channel has a lot of videos of them, and Mike often puts on a fez in their honor. I think the hats are a big plus despite the downside of being shot or arrested |
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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My cousin and his dad were "sovereign citizens" when I was growing up.
One time in North Carolina, my and my cousin were out driving in his truck. He was 14, I was 15. We both had a lot of guns and ammo in the truck as we were just out shooting up in the hills. We got pulled over and my 14 year old cousin was asked about a drivers license. He had a whole spiel he stated about how as a sovereign citizen, he didn't need a license, etc... The cops looked throught the truck, saw all the guns and ammo and called it in. 5 minutes later we were sent on our way with a warning for speeding. Worked for him I guess. |
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I wish Sheriff Grady Judd was in charge of all law enforcement.
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Sovereign Citizens are fucking lunatics. Taxation sucks, but being dead sucks more.
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Originally Posted By Londo: So writes a guy who misspells two words in a single sentence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Londo: Originally Posted By Shootindave: Taxation is theft. Paying for vehicle regestrarion is a furthurance of taxation by other means. And we found the grammer nazi. |
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Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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Loons and grifters who can turn violent at the drop of a hat. My favorite is the one who was shoplifting lunch meat. (stuffed his shirt full) then when approached used his daughter as a human shield.
I always wondered why he had 20 odd packs of baloney and ham in his shirt and didn't steal any bread. |
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Good shoot. Hope the deputies recover. Fuck the sovereign citizen dipshit, the world is a better place without him.
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Avatar stolen from Ranger Up.
“ If you rat on the Parade of Hope, you'll be lucky to find your toenails. These guys are the roughest of all the charities.” |
I wonder what percentage of people in GD who post “taxation is theft” collect some form of disability or social security or other entitlement?
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Asa Phelps has died.
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol: I wish Sheriff Grady Judd was in charge of all law enforcement. View Quote He should have a YouTube channel. His press conferences and one liners are a constant source of entertainment in central Florida. Wonder what his screen name here is? He would fit in |
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: I wonder what percentage of people in GD who post “taxation is theft” collect some form of disability or social security or other entitlement? View Quote Social security is not entitlement is is a small fraction of the money being stolen from me given back to me. |
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